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    Re: Legalize Hard Drugs?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    And even if the black market were eliminated, the negatives would still outweigh this positive.
    You are basing this off the premise that drug use (hard drugs) would increase by a substantial percentage. However, i do not believe it functions @ 1:1.
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    Re: Legalize Hard Drugs?

    Like I said, drug abuse is first a social/health issue. It is also a criminal issue because drugs (at least the one's we're discussing) are illegal. Their legal status makes them more difficult to obtain and, as a result, substantially drives up their cost to purchase.

    Prescription meds (oxycotin, etc.) are legal only when prescribed by a doctor. For everyone else they are illegal. Thus, there is a black market for them and they are valuable.

    We have been fighting a "drug war" that has enriched countless street pushers, filled our prisons and emptied our state and local budgets.

    Alcohol is legal and we have our share of alcoholics. However, most of us could drink a bottle of whiskey every single night and it would be perfectly legal, but we don't. If meth were legal the overwhelming majority of us would not ingest it.

    Legalized drugs would put the bad guys out of business. No? Ok, how many illegal beer operations are there in the U.S.? Exactly. The mom-and-pop beer operator cannot compete with the big boys and neither would the black market. Would you rather drink a can of Miller Lite or some concoction brewed up in some dude's basement? Meth is notorious for containing God-knows-what. A user would buy from a reputable seller (Walgreens) and know their product is "pure" and pay a cheaper price for it rather than buy from guy in a trailer and pay substantially more for it.

    We bring the drug abuse out of the shadows and into the light. We put the bad guys out of business and give the users an opportunity to get help. When they walk into Walgreens and purchase their meth they can be educated and encouraged to seek help.

    In the meantime, our prisons will remain full, the pushers will continue to be enriched and our police will be overburdened and underfunded. It's time to change this failed policy.

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    Re: Legalize Hard Drugs?

    Quote Originally Posted by OrlandoGringo View Post
    Legalized drugs would put the bad guys out of business. No? Ok, how many illegal beer operations are there in the U.S.? Exactly.
    tell me, under prohibition, was trading in illegal alcohol worth $321.6 billion world wide?

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    Re: Legalize Hard Drugs?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    tell me, under prohibition, was trading in illegal alcohol worth $321.6 billion world wide?

    the two are incomparable
    No, the concept is the same.

    How many Californians with licenses to buy prescription pot are still buying it from their local pusher?

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    Re: Legalize Hard Drugs?

    Quote Originally Posted by OrlandoGringo View Post
    No, the concept is the same.

    How many Californians with licenses to buy prescription pot are still buying it from their local pusher?
    before they could get it legally, how much of their marijuana was being shipped in from south america by drug cartels as opposed to being grown locally?
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    I wonder how many people who are for legalizing hard drugs have ever had an addict in their family that they themselves have had to deal with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I wonder how many people who are for legalizing hard drugs have ever had an addict in their family that they themselves have had to deal with.
    shhh, dont tell 'em that, or they might realise that making it legal doesn't take away the ill effects
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    Re: Legalize Hard Drugs?

    Quote Originally Posted by OrlandoGringo View Post
    No, the concept is the same.

    How many Californians with licenses to buy prescription pot are still buying it from their local pusher?
    How much cheaper did pot become?
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    Re: Legalize Hard Drugs?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    shhh, dont tell 'em that, or they might realise that making it legal doesn't take away the ill effects
    Or maybe we've dealt with an addict. Or was one ourselves. And still happen to think that people should be free to make those choices for themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Or maybe we've dealt with an addict. Or was one ourselves. And still happen to think that people should be free to make those choices for themselves.
    i have no problem with whole adult choice argument, i don't agree with it, but i have no problem with it, the problem i have is with the people who seem to think legalising it will stop the cartels, stop drug fueled crimes, stop wrecked lives, and generally take away the negative effects of hard drugs.
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