"I do not underestimate the ability of fanatical groups of terrorists to kill and destroy, but they do not threaten the life of the nation. Whether we would survive Hitler hung in the balance, but there is no doubt that we shall survive al-Qa'ida." -- Lord Hoffmann
"God is the name by which I designate all things which cross my path violently and recklessly, all things which alter my plans and intentions, and change the course of my life, for better or for worse."
-C G Jung
We should start treating meth like any other biological agent.
'In Hoc Signo Vinces'
I do not advocate legalizing any drugs currently illegal, certainly not hard drugs. I don't really care much one way or another about marijuana, but I think legalizing harder drugs would be detrimental to society. I think the social and legal stigma associated with those drugs is a good thing.
meh I just posted in another thread on the topic because it had drifted that way, then I saw this one, yes I am all for legalizing drugs.. all of them, legalizing them does not mean more users, in fact ideally under a properly developed legal setting aimed to control drugs, new users would be discouraged.
my other post I just made(a bit ahead of some jumping in on this thread and this discussion, but relevant):
What I consider the ideal scenario is a two pronged distribution method for hard drugs.
1) pay to play - if you want to use recreationally, so be it, your body, your prerogative., you pay and are taxed for this - with the funds from this supporting rehab programs open to all, and also to support the other prong.
2) Free maintenance - This is for the bottom of the barrel down and out cases, if an addiction goes to the point where you would be stealing, or selling your body, or whatever.. there will be maintenance dose available for free.. you must go to a clinical setting and have the drug administered there.. in this setting the user would slowly build trust with trained specialists (ideally one assigned their "case") who can at least look out for their well being, and try to persuade the user to get the treatment they need to kick their habit.
unfortunately case 2 segregates for the poorest of the poor, and does not address the addict who is able to finance his habit, for them the best we could do is to offer treatment minus the negative stigma and the cost, and hope they seek it out.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition
Drugs are bad, prohibition is worse
I would rather that my tax dollars be used to incarcerate their ass, not bail them out of a mess they deliberately got themselves into. Drug treatment is not the responsibility of the tax payers.from drug distribution and pay for treatment with taxes.
Let me get this straight not only do you want hard drugs legalized but you want me to pay for their treatment? Are you high(of course you are, why am I asking a stupid question) because that would make sense for why you came up with such a dumb idea.Who agrees with me?
[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxAYHOWxGi8"]YouTube- Meth Song[/nomedia]
Last edited by jamesrage; 04-06-10 at 09:21 PM.
"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"
Cicero Marcus Tullius