View Poll Results: Which of the following do you perceive as terrorism?

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  • Deliberately shooting a person to death, motivated with his nationality

    8 25.81%
  • Being a member of a terrorist organization

    17 54.84%
  • Murdering a person with stones/fists, motivated with his nationality

    9 29.03%
  • Bombing a foreign government's stracture/a foreign army's structure, motivated with political causes

    17 54.84%
  • None of the above/Other(what other?)

    8 25.81%
  • McDonald's... I'm lovin' it.

    6 19.35%
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Thread: Terrorism

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    Re: Terrorism

    Deliberately shooting a person to death, motivated with his nationality
    This is called homicide/murder. I do not believe in the concept of hate crimes. All crimes of violence are, in essence, hate crimes.

    Being a member of a terrorist organization
    Being a member of a terrorist organization does not make one a terrorist. It is committing an act of terror that makes one a terrorist.

    Murdering a person with stones/fists, motivated with his nationality
    Also homicide, see above.

    Bombing a foreign government's stracture/a foreign army's structure, motivated with political causes
    Generally speaking, this would be called insurrection, not terrorism. Terrorism is committing an act directed at civilians.

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    Re: Terrorism

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    So if I understand your position correctly, you believe that terrorism is an attack on non-combatants that is motivated by political causes?
    And if the countries involved are not at war; otherwise, to me, it's just part of standard war strategy.

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    Re: Terrorism

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    And if the countries involved are not at war; otherwise, to me, it's just part of standard war strategy.
    Oh, but what about a conflict between a state and an organization?
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    Re: Terrorism

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Oh, but what about a conflict between a state and an organization?
    That's true, but with a conflict like what's happening in the Middle East, it's hard to rule out state involvement in terrorist groups.

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    Re: Terrorism

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Depends on what?
    It seems to me that someone may commit an act of terrorism solely or partially because of their target's nationality.
    But simply the act of murder, even if motivated by the targets nationality or race, is not necessarily terrorism.

    In most cases, it would simply be murder, motivated by nationality or race.

    In my mind, only if said act was performed with intent to cause terror among similar individuals would it be terrorism.

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Yes, that's a definition that most would agree on I'm certain but there are many other definitions to the act.
    Is that the only one you follow?
    Well, I will further define it, but in general, yes...

    Terrorism is usually committed with a political goal in mind, using the terror created to push whatever your target group is towards actions you desire.

    But that is not always the case - I think it possible that a terroristic act might be committed with no political motivation in mind.
    Of course, that depends on how you define "political" and "motivation".
    Some might consider hatred and a desire to harm a specific nationality as a political stance.

    Regarding terrorism targeting civilians:

    I think that restricting the definition of "terrorism" solely to attacks directed against civilians (not to mention defining the term "civilian" in the first place) is to stringent a definition.

    Simply because the target of a terroristic act is a military or other "non-civilian" person does not eliminate the intent to cause terror.
    For example, if terrorists intended to kill (because they were Jewish)several Jewish US military members by some means, perhaps blowing up their vehicles.
    If successful, and if it were known after the fact that these terrorists were targeting Jewish persons because they were Jewish, would the fact that the attack only killed Jewish military persons reduce the terror factor among non-military Jews by much, if any?

    Or apply any other group that people are lumped into, same deal.
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