View Poll Results: Which of the following do you perceive as terrorism?

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  • Deliberately shooting a person to death, motivated with his nationality

    8 25.81%
  • Being a member of a terrorist organization

    17 54.84%
  • Murdering a person with stones/fists, motivated with his nationality

    9 29.03%
  • Bombing a foreign government's stracture/a foreign army's structure, motivated with political causes

    17 54.84%
  • None of the above/Other(what other?)

    8 25.81%
  • McDonald's... I'm lovin' it.

    6 19.35%
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    Re: Terrorism

    Quote Originally Posted by MetalGear View Post
    wtf. Your asking me if he is a terrorist and im saying he is a nationalist.
    Doesnt that mean no, he is not a terrorist?
    It would mean no in the case that all of the nationalists are not terrorists.
    Else all options are open.

    Anyway, can you mark the differences between this action and an action that you would perceive as terrorism?
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    Re: Terrorism

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    It would mean no in the case that all of the nationalists are not terrorists.
    Else all options are open.
    Thats because all nationalists aren't terrorists.

    Anyway, can you mark the differences between this action and an action that you would perceive as terrorism?
    Terrorism is typically associated with acts of violence in the name of religion or a political ideology that goes in hand with religious beliefs rather than racist ones like nationalist does.
    If he killed those people in the name of his religion, i would single him out as a terrorist though to be honest there is no internationally accepted definition of the word, so again, i cannot fully answer your question. What do you regard terrorism as?

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    Re: Terrorism

    Quote Originally Posted by MetalGear View Post
    Thats because all nationalists aren't terrorists.



    Terrorism is typically associated with acts of violence in the name of religion or a political ideology that goes in hand with religious beliefs rather than racist ones like nationalist does.
    If he killed those people in the name of his religion, i would single him out as a terrorist though to be honest there is no internationally accepted definition of the word, so again, i cannot fully answer your question. What do you regard terrorism as?
    Something different.

    Well I'm sufficed with your answer, you're dismissed.
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    Re: Terrorism

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Something different.

    Well I'm sufficed with your answer, you're dismissed.
    Oh no, i must insist. Whats your definition of a terrorist?

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    Re: Terrorism

    What is terrorism? Is it not the act of instilling terror into victims and bystanders. Killing mercilessly. Creating damage either physically or mentally. Causing fear and disrupt.

    You do not need to focus on a terrorist's nationality or political leaning. In my mind, if you kill (or try to kill) an innocent human being, you are a terrorist. Plain and simple.

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    Re: Terrorism

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    You do not need to focus on a terrorist's nationality or political leaning. In my mind, if you kill (or try to kill) an innocent human being, you are a terrorist. Plain and simple.
    So in your mind, a person that accidentally smashes his car into a tree, killing another person that was sitting next to him, is a terrorist?

    And another example for a person that you would label as a terrorist is a one who shoots the lover of his wife, injuring him?

    Please correct me if I have misunderstood.
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    Re: Terrorism

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Check the actions above that you consider to be acts of terrorism.

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    "Terrorism" is about motivation, not merely about the acts committed. Quite frankly, the misuse and over use of the word terrorist has diminished it's meaning almost to the point of making it useless.

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    Re: Terrorism

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    So in your mind, a person that accidentally smashes his car into a tree, killing another person that was sitting next to him, is a terrorist?

    And another example for a person that you would label as a terrorist is a one who shoots the lover of his wife, injuring him?

    Please correct me if I have misunderstood.
    Correction... intentionally kill/harm or try to kill/harm.

    One doesn't need to be a jihadist to be considered a terrorist.

    Murder is terrorism. Attempted murder is terrorism. So yes, in a broad sense your second example is terrorism, but a more appropriate label would be attempted murder.

    "Terrorism is, in the most general sense, the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion." (Taken from Wikipedia)

    Does that clarify?

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    Re: Terrorism

    In response to the poll question, "Which of the following do you perceive as terrorism?"

    Deliberately shooting a person to death, motivated with his nationality.
    Not entirely sure what you mean. Motivated with is nationality? If you mean motivated by his or her nationality, then I would say it depends.

    Being a member of a terrorist organization
    No, obviously, as being a member of a group is not an action, and the word "terrorism" can only be used to define an action.
    Murdering a person with stones/fists, motivated with his nationality
    Same answer as option 1.

    Bombing a foreign government's structure/a foreign army's structure, motivated with political causes
    No. If it is a foreign government's structure/foreign army's structure...Wait, aren't they the same thing, as an army in most cases is subordinate to the government? Or, in some few, the opposite?

    But I digress.
    If it is a foreign structure (as in, belonging to a country that is not the one attacking it), then bombing it would be an act of war, not terrorism. If it is bombed by a group not associated with a country (for example, a terrorist group), then it canít be a foreign structure, because the persons attacking it arenít a foreign power.

    Terrorism, in my mind, is committing an act with the INTENT of causing terror.

    In war, such acts may have the side effect of terrorizing some, but their main focus is to take out a militarily important target.
    Or, at least, thatís they way it SHOULD be.

    None of the above/Other(what other?)
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    Re: Terrorism

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Not entirely sure what you mean. Motivated with is nationality? If you mean motivated by his or her nationality, then I would say it depends.
    Depends on what?
    Terrorism, in my mind, is committing an act with the INTENT of causing terror.
    Yes, that's a definition that most would agree on I'm certain but there are many other definitions to the act.

    Is that the only one you follow?
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