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  • People be forced to pay for the costs they incur

    17 94.44%
  • You be forced to pay for those who refuse to cover their own costs

    1 5.56%
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    Re: Would you rather....

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    You missed my point, which is that as long as insurance exists (and I'm not saying that it shouldn't exist), people are going to pay for other people's health care costs. This is what insurance is. So saying that mandating people to buy insurance is the only way to stop people from paying for the health care costs of others is false. Even if such a mandate existed, insured people who need little health care will be paying for the health care of insured people who need more. In fact, forcing people to buy insurance will create an even greater amount of paying for the health care of others, since healthy people who chose not to have insurance will be forced to have insurance to pay for the health care of those who need it more badly.
    Exactly. Forcing everyone to be insured does not do anything to reduce healthcare costs for anybody. Its the additional risk that is assumed that will make rates go up for everyone. Unlike auto insurance, where people who drive piss poor typically pay more into the overall pool, our health insurance industry is largely employer driven, which means that the more sickly pay the same rate as a healthy individual. If we could unstick the healthcare benefit from employers and make it an individual purchase it would uncomplicate the issue immensely. Those who are sick would pay their fair share for their policies.

    We don't need single payer, because it would have to be government run and if the government, in the throes of budgetary concerns, decides to cut reimbursement rates to clinics for treatment, then a healthcare provider has nowhere to turn to compete with those rates and keep their business running. They are stuck with whatever rate the gov. gives them. I know it would cut down on administrative costs, but you know what they say about having all your eggs in one basket. Thats what single payer is.
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    Re: Would you rather....

    We (the US) recently passed a health care plan written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it. It was passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts themselves from it, and signed by a president that also is exempt from it, hasn't read it, and who smokes. It is paid for with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, all to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that's broke. Is there a problem?
    No! The only problem we have is with people that believe this kind of crap.

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