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Thread: Should the Hutaree militia be waterboarded?

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    Re: Should the Hutaree militia be waterboarded?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Actually, no. I am saying that the 14th amendment states the rights in the USC only apply within its borders.
    So, do U.S. forces outside the boundaries of the U.S. have the right to deprive other people of their natural rights?

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    Re: Should the Hutaree militia be waterboarded?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    That is only the definition of citizenship. It doesn't change the rest one bit.



    That's not what Jefferson meant at all.

    You have to read the whole letter to understand. Jefferson was saying that rebellion here and there is not a sign of weakness for a democracy. He clearly did not endorse the actual success of any and all rebellions. He said rebellion simply shows that the people still expect liberty and are willing to "warn" governments to respect it. He said the rebellions were usually the result of uninformed people who needed to be educated about the truth in order to be pacified.


    Thats what you got right.






    I find the parallels to the teabaggers very interesting in that regard.

    And then you have to lower the discussion with rude vulgar smears..... Too bad. We were doing well....


    Do you think you sound like an intellectual genius when you act like a mouth foamer with this vulgar name for patriotic Americans who in your mind "paralell" Jefferson's ideals of warning our government?





    The Atlantic? 0.O


    "Thomas Jefferson: Radical and Racist, "


    I stopped reading right there. FAIL
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    Re: Should the Hutaree militia be waterboarded?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Actually, no. I am saying that the 14th amendment states the rights in the USC only apply within its borders.
    Okay, before we talk about that - do you agree that they apply to everyone within its borders, including non-citizens?

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    Re: Should the Hutaree militia be waterboarded?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Okay, before we talk about that - do you agree that they apply to everyone within its borders, including non-citizens?




    Not going to play your obnoxious "Gotcha" game. Make your point.
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    Re: Should the Hutaree militia be waterboarded?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Do you think you sound like an intellectual genius when you act like a mouth foamer with this vulgar name for patriotic Americans who in your mind "paralell" Jefferson's ideals of warning our government?
    Oh, get over it. Fine, "tea partiers." Sorry to hurt your delicate sensibilities.

    The Atlantic? 0.O
    First link I found. So what? You saying it's not accurate?

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    Re: Should the Hutaree militia be waterboarded?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    So, do U.S. forces outside the boundaries of the U.S. have the right to deprive other people of their natural rights?



    Loaded question..... give me an example.
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    Re: Should the Hutaree militia be waterboarded?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Not going to play your obnoxious "Gotcha" game. Make your point.
    That is my point. It's not a gotcha. Do you agree, or not? Just a yes or no will suffice.

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    Re: Should the Hutaree militia be waterboarded?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Oh, get over it. Fine, "tea partiers." Sorry to hurt your delicate sensibilities.

    No need to have a tantrum, You want to act vulgar, don't cry when the Good Reverend isn't all lolipop and puppy dogs with you.



    First link I found. So what? You saying it's not accurate?

    No, I think it takes a little liberty with context.
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    Re: Should the Hutaree militia be waterboarded?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    That is my point. It's not a gotcha. Do you agree, or not? Just a yes or no will suffice.



    Again. You are playing a stupid gotcha game. If you read the 14th amendment you will see, that, yes it does. This is why GITMO existed in the first place....


    If you are attempting to be clever. Please stop failing. ok?
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    Re: Should the Hutaree militia be waterboarded?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    No need to have a tantrum, You want to act vulgar, don't cry when the Good Reverend isn't all lolipop and puppy dogs with you.
    Fine. Bring it on. You have one free pass to use a bad name. Can you get back on topic now?

    No, I think it takes a little liberty with context.
    It's a verbatim quote of the entire letter, dude.

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