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  • A purely Socialist economy

    5 6.25%
  • An economy with more Socialism then Capitalism

    10 12.50%
  • An economy with equal Socialist and Capitalist ideas

    12 15.00%
  • An economy with more Capitalism then Socialism

    34 42.50%
  • A purely Capitalist society

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Thread: Socialism vs. Capitalism

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    Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    You mean you want a check sent to you?
    We means the taxpayers. The profit goes to the U.S. Treasury, which means we will pay that much less in taxes to cover the debt. Basic accounting.
    -I- meant we, as in the people, individually.
    -We- assumed the risk so -we- should reap the reward.
    Else, the government is making money off -our- risk.

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    Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    -I- meant we, as in the people, individually.
    -We- assumed the risk so -we- should reap the reward.
    Else, the government is making money off -our- risk.
    Isn't that what corporations do all the time?
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    Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Isn't that what corporations do all the time?
    Yes... and when their stock price goes up, those that own the stock profit from it.
    What's your point?

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    Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    -I- meant we, as in the people, individually.
    -We- assumed the risk so -we- should reap the reward.
    Else, the government is making money off -our- risk.
    Making money? The government's making money now?

    No, the government is getting our money back, and putting it back where it found it. We will pay less in taxes than we would if they didn't do that.

    Don't play accounting semantic games.

    Would you rather the government send you one dollar as your share, and then charge you an extra dollar in taxes to cover the amount that went into the TARP in the first place?
    Last edited by misterman; 04-01-10 at 03:44 PM.

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    Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Yes... and when their stock price goes up, those that own the stock profit from it.
    What's your point?
    The taxpayers are profiting from this. The money that went into the banks is going back to the same place it came from. Consider it out big fat joint checking account at the U.S. Treasury.

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    Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Making money? The government's making money now? No, the government is getting our money back, and putting it back where it found it.
    Yes -- and then there is an extra $8B on the investment. Thats profit made by the government, after risking our money to do it. That profit rightfully belongs to those that took the risk that created it -- we, the people.

    We will pay less in taxes than we would if they didn't do that.
    Really? There's an $8B tax cut floating somewhere in congress?

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    Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Yes -- and then there is an extra $8B on the investment. Thats profit made by the government, after risking our money to do it. That profit rightfully belongs to those that took the risk that created it -- we, the people.
    And you will get it.

    Really? There's an $8B tax cut floating somewhere in congress?
    There's the absence of a $8billion tax increase floating in the future.

    I'm not going to play accounting games with you.

    I'll just remind you that the point of the TARP was to save the economy from complete collapse, not to make a profit. It sure as hell wasn't socialism.

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    Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    And you will get it.
    Like I said - I didnt see anyting in the artcle you posted regarding a dsibursement.

    There's the absence of a $8billion tax increase floating in the future.
    And to think -you're- accusing -me- of playing accounting games

    Imagine if GM said it would pay its dividends in terms of not incresasing the price of its cars.

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    Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    My problem with modern capitalism is there aren't enough capitalists.
    In capitalist lingo that's called an opportunity

    Although if the non-capitalists have power and turn it into socialist...I suppose that's time to move.
    Last edited by Mach; 04-01-10 at 03:58 PM.

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    Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    And to think -you're- accusing -me- of playing accounting games

    Imagine if GM said it would pay its dividends in terms of not incresasing the price of its cars.
    But that's not what is happening. Don't play accounting games.

    The money is going back in the same account it came out of.

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