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  • A purely Socialist economy

    5 6.25%
  • An economy with more Socialism then Capitalism

    10 12.50%
  • An economy with equal Socialist and Capitalist ideas

    12 15.00%
  • An economy with more Capitalism then Socialism

    34 42.50%
  • A purely Capitalist society

    19 23.75%
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Thread: Socialism vs. Capitalism

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    Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Would you like me to explain why it fell apart?
    A most legit question.
    I think communism was far too repressive, which smothered the morale and capabilities of man... The sun is still not shining on Russia, but the pall has been removed.

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    Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    This is exactly right. Large corporations use campaign donations to get lawmakers in their pockets and write laws favorable to the large corporations. Such laws can favor corporations over consumers or smaller upstarts competing with the established corporations.

    Also, lawmakers can make government contracts with the large corporations who donate to them. This leads to a system of corporate welfare in which businesses and industries are reliant upon government contracts to earn a profit.
    And these are the reasons for campaign finance reform. I fee that our government should handle this via the tax payers money...This is so big that it may never come into total fruitation...
    Just, no more millions of dollars spent on long winded wasteful campaigns.
    Sixty days, $100,000 tops, possible???

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    Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism

    Quote Originally Posted by Politics101 View Post
    This poll is deceiving because you cannot have a socialist government and capitalist government working together as a single body. It's either socialism or capitalism, there is no idealist 'perfect' world where socialism and capitalism can work together under the same government.
    I think history has proven you wrong many many times.

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    Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism

    Socialism forces people to provide means to others.
    This is slavery, and is the antithesis of liberty.

    Capitalism is the economic outgrowth of human nature. So long as the rights of the people under capitalism are protected from those who would prey upon them, capitalism is the ideal system, as everyone succeeds according his own abilities.

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    Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Socialism forces people to provide means to others.
    This is slavery, and is the antithesis of liberty.
    I'm not socialist, but I know this is absurd.

    Capitalism is the economic outgrowth of human nature. So long as the rights of the people under capitalism are protected from those who would prey upon them, capitalism is the ideal system, as everyone succeeds according his own abilities.
    Why is that ideal? What about people who don't have abilities, because they can't afford a good education, or are disabled, etc?

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    Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    I'm not socialist, but I know this is absurd.
    It is a succinct and accurate description of the welfare state, a necessary component of socialism.

    Why is that ideal?
    As I said -- it is an outgrowth of human nature, in that everyone naturally does whatever he thinks is in his best interest.

    What about people who don't have abilities, because they can't afford a good education, or are disabled, etc?
    What about them?
    More specifically, how to they have a right to the fruits of osmeone elses' labor?

    You have the right to pursue happiness. You have no right to expect success in that pursuit other than that which you, yourself, can provide. That your pursuit leaves you with a standard of living that someone finds unacceptable in no way creates a burden on me.
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    Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism

    Quote Originally Posted by Politics101 View Post
    This poll is deceiving because you cannot have a socialist government and capitalist government working together as a single body. It's either socialism or capitalism, there is no idealist 'perfect' world where socialism and capitalism can work together under the same government.
    Sure there is. The United States has always had elements of both.

    The reality is, pure Socialism and pure Capitalism never really work.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism

    In a purely Socialistic system - all work for the benefit of the state and it is up to the state to supply the needs of the people.


    In a purely Capitalistic system - all work for the benefit of the corporation and it is up to the corporation to supply the needs of the people.
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    Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    This is exactly right. Large corporations use campaign donations to get lawmakers in their pockets and write laws favorable to the large corporations. Such laws can favor corporations over consumers or smaller upstarts competing with the established corporations.

    Also, lawmakers can make government contracts with the large corporations who donate to them. This leads to a system of corporate welfare in which businesses and industries are reliant upon government contracts to earn a profit.
    Gosh, if only the voters have 100% of the power to elect people no matter what anyone spends.

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    Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    It is a succinct and accurate description of the welfare state, a necessary component of socialism.
    It's not at all accurate, and welfare isn't a necessary component of socialism, and socialism is much more than welfare.

    What about them?
    More specifically, how to they have a right to the fruits of osmeone elses' labor?
    I didn't say they have a right to it, nor am I endorsing socialism as the solution. I am asking why you think leaving those people out is an "optimal" system. Not optimal for them.

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