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  • A purely Socialist economy

    5 6.25%
  • An economy with more Socialism then Capitalism

    10 12.50%
  • An economy with equal Socialist and Capitalist ideas

    12 15.00%
  • An economy with more Capitalism then Socialism

    34 42.50%
  • A purely Capitalist society

    19 23.75%
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Thread: Socialism vs. Capitalism

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    Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Don't fool yourself. They are working for the benefit of the corporation.
    The only one foolling yourself here is you.
    They work, sometimes for a corporation, to benefit themselves.
    The corporation, should they work for one, may alsso benefit, but that's not the reason they work.

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    Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism

    Quote Originally Posted by faminedynasty View Post
    Right you are. Socialism is the workers in power.
    Socialism is the state in power, forcing the workers to slave away for others.

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    Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    If the workers don't have power then it can't be socialism because socialism by definition is the dictatorship of the working class.
    Except that there's absolutely nothing about socialism that necessitates that the working class has any control over the actions of decisions of the state.

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    Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    The definition of socialism is working class power.
    False.

    Socialism is the state ownership/control of the means of producing and distributing wealth.

    There absolutely nothing in that which necessitates that the workers have any control over the state.

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    Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman
    Socialism is the state ownership/control of the means of producing and distributing wealth.
    No it's not. That's state capitalism.
    "I do not claim that every incident in the history of empire can be explained in directly economic terms. Economic interests are filtered through a political process, policies are implemented by a complex state apparatus, and the whole system generates its own momentum."

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    Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    No it's not. That's state capitalism.
    No, its not.

    Webster:
    Main Entry: so·cial·ism
    Pronunciation: \ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm\
    Function: noun
    Date: 1837
    1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
    2:
    a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
    b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
    3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

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    Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism

    I prefer a capitalist economy with elements of socialism.
    If you build a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day.

    If you set a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

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    Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism

    Because the dictionary is such a good source of political theory.
    "I do not claim that every incident in the history of empire can be explained in directly economic terms. Economic interests are filtered through a political process, policies are implemented by a complex state apparatus, and the whole system generates its own momentum."

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    Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Because the dictionary is such a good source of political theory.
    Well, if -you- want to use self-styled and agenda-convenient definitions to suit your purposes, that's fine -- but it necessarily means that your arguments are flawed. Carry on.

    Meanwhile...
    Socialism is the state ownership/control of the means of producing and distributing wealth.

    There absolutely nothing in that which necessitates that the workers have any control over the state.

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    Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
    But, but, but, I thought the workers had power.
    "God is the name by which I designate all things which cross my path violently and recklessly, all things which alter my plans and intentions, and change the course of my life, for better or for worse."
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