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    Re: Would you have signed or vetoed the health care bill?

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    Signed. At the start of this debate as high as 90% of the people believed we needed health care reform. You can bet the democrats came up with a more people friendly bill than the insurance/corporate/republicans would ever have. The simple fact that billions were spent trying to defeat the bill tells me it's better than most people think it is. Is it what I'd like, no, but it's a start. The republicans would have given us more medi-gap. That's the biggest tax payer rip-off by insurance companies and drug companies in history. I hope the democrats fix that mess. They could save billions just letting the government nagociate the price of drugs we the taxpayers pay for.
    We *DO* need healthcare reform, what Obama signed just isn't it. Just because we need something doesn't mean you sign any bad bill that comes down the pike, you go after the real problems and correct them, you don't just bandage over them like the Obama bill did. But Obama, like all politicians, is afraid to tackle the real problems because the real problems are major campaign contributors to both political parties. They're not going to shoot themselves in the foot and piss off their financial supporters, so the real problems go entirely ignored.
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    Re: Would you have signed or vetoed the health care bill?

    Neither....
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    Re: Would you have signed or vetoed the health care bill?

    It should never have passed.
    There was bipartisanship.....against it. If it was such a good thing for the country, why all the arm twisting, bribes and backroom deals to pass the monstrosity? Why did 34 Dems vote against it?
    Oh well, as Nancy Pelosi said "We have to pass it so we can find out what's in it".
    I guess we'll be finding out all the dirty little details now. Unfortunately what is not in it, is tort reform and the ability to buy across state lines. Two Rep. ideas that would have brought down costs.

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    Re: Would you have signed or vetoed the health care bill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    We *DO* need healthcare reform, what Obama signed just isn't it. Just because we need something doesn't mean you sign any bad bill that comes down the pike, you go after the real problems and correct them, you don't just bandage over them like the Obama bill did. But Obama, like all politicians, is afraid to tackle the real problems because the real problems are major campaign contributors to both political parties. They're not going to shoot themselves in the foot and piss off their financial supporters, so the real problems go entirely ignored.
    Do you think there was any way in hell the democrats could have come up with a health care bill that was "what the people wanted" and republican would have supported? Hell no. Any bill would have been the "wrong bill". Any one with a brain bigger than a pea knows this. Republicans weren't interested in health care reform, they were out to defeat the democrats. Thank God they failed.

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    Re: Would you have signed or vetoed the health care bill?

    Quote Originally Posted by jacksbrat View Post
    Do you think there was any way in hell the democrats could have come up with a health care bill that was "what the people wanted" and republican would have supported? Hell no. Any bill would have been the "wrong bill". Any one with a brain bigger than a pea knows this. Republicans weren't interested in health care reform, they were out to defeat the democrats. Thank God they failed.
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    Re: Would you have signed or vetoed the health care bill?

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    Re: Would you have signed or vetoed the health care bill?

    Signed. Republicans had 12 years to run some kind of health care reform and did nothing. Something needed to be done. I'm glad Obama did it instead of waiting around for Republicans to decide whether or not they want some magical invisible hand to do it for them while the health industry keeps screwing people over.
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    Re: Would you have signed or vetoed the health care bill?

    Quote Originally Posted by jacksbrat View Post
    Do you think there was any way in hell the democrats could have come up with a health care bill that was "what the people wanted" and republican would have supported? Hell no. Any bill would have been the "wrong bill". Any one with a brain bigger than a pea knows this. Republicans weren't interested in health care reform, they were out to defeat the democrats. Thank God they failed.
    I don't care about partisan politics, I care about doing the right thing for the right reasons. Neither party has any interest whatsoever in actually fixing the problem because it'll cost them political clout and political contributions. The same is true of the financial disaster, nobody wants to fix it because inherent in fixing it will cost them votes.

    Both sides are only interested in staying in power, neither are interested in actually solving problems.
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    Re: Would you have signed or vetoed the health care bill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I don't care about partisan politics, I care about doing the right thing for the right reasons. Neither party has any interest whatsoever in actually fixing the problem because it'll cost them political clout and political contributions. The same is true of the financial disaster, nobody wants to fix it because inherent in fixing it will cost them votes.

    Both sides are only interested in staying in power, neither are interested in actually solving problems.
    Yea, right. That's why the democrats did "nothing". Republicans want you to think both parties are the same, That way they've already got themselves back to even instead of the party everyone hated last election.

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