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Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights
Let me let you in on a big secret that those of us who are familiar with this issue all know
1) if you go to a p ublic target range or a gun club on a saturday afternoon and randomly select 10 people there and then go to say the Cincinnati or Columbus police department and randomly select 10 officers and then have both groups
a) shoot the police qualification course with say a standard handgun like a glock 17 or a beretta 92
b) give t hem a test on gun laws, gun types etc
you will almost always find that the non cop civilians are far better shots than the cops and know far more about guns
Justice department studies consistently demonstrate that when non cop civilians get into gun fights they are
a) far more likely to hit the bad guy
b) far less likely to hit an innocent by-stander than a cop
my 12 year old son can outshoot 90% of the cops in Ohio. I know-=he went to the top firearms/lethal force training facility in the state and proved that to instructors with years of experience including county swat captains, military police officers etc
of course he shoots about 4000 rounds a year out of his 22 pistol and another 1000 out of a smith and wesson 38
that is more than most cops will shoot in their lifetime
by the time he is 15 he should be a USPSA GM in limited division
I believe gun ownership should be a privelege granted by the government. Driving is a privelege granted by the government because of the damage a person can do with a car if they don't know how to operate it. Guns can do just as much damage but actually have the intended purpose of killing or wounding people, while that's just a regrettable side effect of cars. No one should be allowed to use something that could easily kill innocent people if used incorrectly without the proper training. Considering the amount of training Police Officers must go through before they're entrusted with guns it just seems like a given to me that ordinary people who want to use guns should have to have some sort of training.
Of course, I understand that the Constitution disagrees with me. I don't need reminding.
Let me let you in on a big secret that those of us who are familiar with this issue all know
1) if you go to a p ublic target range or a gun club on a saturday afternoon and randomly select 10 people there and then go to say the Cincinnati or Columbus police department and randomly select 10 officers and then have both groups
a) shoot the police qualification course with say a standard handgun like a glock 17 or a beretta 92
b) give t hem a test on gun laws, gun types etc
you will almost always find that the non cop civilians are far better shots than the cops and know far more about guns
Justice department studies consistently demonstrate that when non cop civilians get into gun fights they are
a) far more likely to hit the bad guy
b) far less likely to hit an innocent by-stander than a cop
my 12 year old son can outshoot 90% of the cops in Ohio. I know-=he went to the top firearms/lethal force training facility in the state and proved that to instructors with years of experience including county swat captains, military police officers etc
of course he shoots about 4000 rounds a year out of his 22 pistol and another 1000 out of a smith and wesson 38
that is more than most cops will shoot in their lifetime
by the time he is 15 he should be a USPSA GM in limited division