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What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights?

What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights?

  • A license/permit required to exercise certain or all 1st amendment rights

    Votes: 5 15.6%

  • A license/permit required to exercise certain or all 2nd amendment rights

    Votes: 18 56.3%

  • Registration requirement of some or all of your books and other 1st amendment related things

    Votes: 2 6.3%

  • Registration requirement of some or all of your firearms and other weapons.

    Votes: 26 81.3%

  • A ban on certain books,religions, what the press can report and etc.

    Votes: 3 9.4%

  • A ban on certain weapons.

    Votes: 19 59.4%

  • A ban on certain individuals from exercising 1st amendment rights

    Votes: 3 9.4%

  • A ban on certain individuals form exercising 2nd amendment rights

    Votes: 16 50.0%

  • A total ban on 1st amendment rights

    Votes: 2 6.3%

  • A total ban on 2nd amendment rights

    Votes: 3 9.4%
  • Total voters
    32
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What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights?

(some options may be slightly modified to fit in the poll.)

A license/permit required to exercise certain or all 1st amendment rights

A license/permit required to exercise certain or all 2nd amendment rights

Registration requirement of some or all of your books,newspaper and other 1st amendment related things

Registration requirement of some or all of your firearms and other weapons.

A ban on certain books,religions, what the press can report and etc.

A ban on certain weapons.

A ban on certain individuals from exercising 1st amendment rights

A ban on certain individuals form exercising 2nd amendment rights

A total ban on 1st amendment rights

A total ban on 2nd amendment rights
 
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Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

I would not be inclined to call any of those reasonable.
 
Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

Other than trying to obtain a nuclear weapon and yelling fire in a movie theater type situations I cant think of anything else.
 
Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

Most of the choices I believe are unreasonable but I think when it comes to certain issues with gun laws there should be some rules. I don't agree with the idea of unregistered gun owning and stuff like that but I do fully support the fundamental right to bear arms as it can be consider a right to ones property.
 
Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

Progressive86 said:
Most of the choices I believe are unreasonable but I think when it comes to certain issues with gun laws there should be some rules. I don't agree with the idea of unregistered gun owning and stuff like that but I do fully support the fundamental right to bear arms as it can be consider a right to ones property.
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I completely agree with your view on the second amendment. As for the first amendment, the choice wasn't on there, but I think if we restrict obviously dangerous words, like fire in a theater, or words clearly directed at inciting others to violence, we can allow reasonable use of this amendment. Subject to the court's views, at the time of, of course.
 
Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

I think there needs to be a "none of the above" option.
 
Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

Ikari said:
I think there needs to be a "none of the above" option.
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There is only a ten poll option limit.
 
Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

jamesrage said:
There is only a ten poll option limit.
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*gasps*

Conspiracy!!!!

*coughs*

j/k, it's all good.
 
Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

lizzie said:
Why?

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Because if you catalog all the law abiding citizens, database the crap out of them, data mine till your arms are tired, and make sure you have a list of all their guns, where they keep them, and why they have them; then the only undocumented guns left are held by criminals. Thus you know where the criminals are at.

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Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

lizzie said:
Why?

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I say that because I think it would deal with the issue of gun ownership in the black market.
 
Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

Progressive86 said:
I say that because I think it would deal with the issue of gun ownership in the black market.
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So people who illegally buy guns are going to register them?
 
Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

Ikari said:
So people who illegally buy guns are going to register them?
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I'm not saying that. Of course they wouldn't.
 
Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

I would support registration of weapons and especially bans on certain weapons, unless people here are genuinely ok with American citizens running around with warheads, nukes, or anti-aircraft guns.
 
Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

Progressive86 said:
I'm not saying that. Of course they wouldn't.
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So how would that work again then? I mean besides providing a data base to the government of law abiding citizens exercising their rights?
 
Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

Ikari said:
So how would that work again then? I mean besides providing a data base to the government of law abiding citizens exercising their rights?
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I think it would work because the issue we have on the black market has nothing to do with gun registration but it has to do with taking away the rights to have guns. If you keep that as a right and just have certain regulations like what i've proposed than there wouldn't be much of a problem. How do you think that affects us all?
 
Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

Ikari said:
I would not be inclined to call any of those reasonable.
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agree completely
 
Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

Progressive86 said:
I think it would work because the issue we have on the black market has nothing to do with gun registration but it has to do with taking away the rights to have guns. If you keep that as a right and just have certain regulations like what i've proposed than there wouldn't be much of a problem. How do you think that affects us all?
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I think it has little to no effect. Making people register guns will not stop illegal guns nor will it significantly impact the number of illegal guns out there. So in the end, all it provides is another layer of bureaucracy against regular people looking to exercise their rights.
 
Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

Cilogy said:
I would support registration of weapons and especially bans on certain weapons, unless people here are genuinely ok with American citizens running around with warheads, nukes, or anti-aircraft guns.
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anything civilian law enforcement officers have access to-so should other civilians
 
Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

Progressive86 said:
I say that because I think it would deal with the issue of gun ownership in the black market.
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Why do you think that?
 
Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

Ikari said:
I think it has little to no effect. Making people register guns will not stop illegal guns nor will it significantly impact the number of illegal guns out there. So in the end, all it provides is another layer of bureaucracy against regular people looking to exercise their rights.
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I guess you can make that arguement because there's really no way you can stop illegal guns but I was really trying to get at optaining arms in general because it is a basic right that shouldn't be violated, But the fact that there are still people who will get over out there even with regulation is a justified defence to the point you're making.
 
Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

Progressive86 said:
I think it would work because the issue we have on the black market has nothing to do with gun registration but it has to do with taking away the rights to have guns.
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I'm sorry, but I have no idea what you are getting at.

Progressive86 said:
If you keep that as a right and just have certain regulations like what i've proposed than there wouldn't be much of a problem. How do you think that affects us all?
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Which regulations have you proposed (besides registration of firearms)?
 
Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

Ikari said:
Because if you catalog all the law abiding citizens, database the crap out of them, data mine till your arms are tired, and make sure you have a list of all their guns, where they keep them, and why they have them; then the only undocumented guns left are held by criminals. Thus you know where the criminals are at.

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Gangster aren't the only people who murder people. Illegally bought guns aren't the only guns used in murders.

I say someone can't own a gun that really has no practical use in self-defense or sport. An anti-material rifle is one, an RPG is another.

If someone has a history of violent crimes, I see no reason in letting them own a gun.
 
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Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

ScottD said:
I say someone can't own a gun that really has no practical use in self-defense or sport. An anti-material rifle is one, an RPG is another.
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Most weapons can be said to have a self-defense use.
 
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