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  • A license/permit required to exercise certain or all 1st amendment rights

    6 15.79%
  • A license/permit required to exercise certain or all 2nd amendment rights

    22 57.89%
  • Registration requirement of some or all of your books and other 1st amendment related things

    2 5.26%
  • Registration requirement of some or all of your firearms and other weapons.

    30 78.95%
  • A ban on certain books,religions, what the press can report and etc.

    3 7.89%
  • A ban on certain weapons.

    24 63.16%
  • A ban on certain individuals from exercising 1st amendment rights

    3 7.89%
  • A ban on certain individuals form exercising 2nd amendment rights

    17 44.74%
  • A total ban on 1st amendment rights

    2 5.26%
  • A total ban on 2nd amendment rights

    3 7.89%
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    Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    To buy guns?
    sure. why not.

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    Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    hmm, 14 or 16 should be ok.
    18 is the current age of majority. While there is nothing magic about that age, it is the age where you enjoy full rights of a citizen.

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    Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Other than trying to obtain a nuclear weapon and yelling fire in a movie theater type situations I cant think of anything else.
    A non-nuclear bomb would be okay?

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    Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    sure. why not.
    I happen to know a lot of teenagers who should under no circumstances be able to buy guns...forcing them to wait until they are 18 wouldn't hurt. With all the hormonal changes going on in the teen's, we tend to be a bit unbalanced.
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    Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    I happen to know a lot of teenagers who should under no circumstances be able to buy guns...forcing them to wait until they are 18 wouldn't hurt. With all the hormonal changes going on in the teen's, we tend to be a bit unbalanced.
    18? That'st still teen years. Hell, if you're worried about idiots with hormones, make it 25.

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    Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    18? That'st still teen years. Hell, if you're worried about idiots with hormones, make it 25.
    I don't think anyone could justify pushing the age limit that high, past the drinking age even. 18 would be the most moderate view, and would be most agreed upon
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    Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    I don't think anyone could justify pushing the age limit that high, past the drinking age even. 18 would be the most moderate view, and would be most agreed upon
    I know, just making a point. But maybe you should at least think about what I'm saying. If we justify restrictions based on maturity and hormones, 18 is not the best age. Nothing magic about 18, we can change it if we want.

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    Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights?
    Not sure what the point is, but I'll play along:



    A license/permit required to exercise certain or all 1st amendment rights
    You need a permit to assemble in a public square? Why? Public safety outweighs your right to hold a protest anytime you want. Neo-nazis and the Westboro family cult are rarely denied permit. The city just wants to have the crowd control in place. No big deal. Get your permit and go scream your head off.

    A license/permit required to exercise certain or all 2nd amendment rights
    Gun science and gun culture has changed in the last 200 years, has it not?
    In the interest of public safety, keeping track of handguns so police can track them after a crime has been committed etc.

    The Turner Diaries paranoid delusions about the Government giving two ****s about what legal gun owners are doing is retarded.

    Registration requirement of some or all of your books,newspaper and other 1st amendment related things
    Not sure what this pertains too. Amazon.com keeps pretty good track of what you're reading. Why do you think they always suggest books you might like.

    Registration requirement of some or all of your firearms and other weapons.
    I think handguns are what most states track. Shotguns/rifles vary from state to state. Let the states decide what's in best interest of public safety.

    A ban on certain books,religions, what the press can report and etc.
    Banned books usually become classics and are required reading in most high schools.

    The press should not report on anything that could put Americans in jeopardy-- like outing CIA agents.

    A ban on certain weapons.
    When a certain weapon becomes a threat to public safety. Explosives obviously should be regulated and tracked.

    A ban on certain individuals from exercising 1st amendment rights
    No. Can't think of any exceptions.

    A ban on certain individuals form exercising 2nd amendment rights
    The mentally ill.
    Felons.

    A total ban on 1st amendment rights

    A total ban on 2nd amendment rights
    No.

    And no.

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    Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    And people will blame the government for allowing him to have his right to bear arms back. I'd side with those people; if a man/woman has murdered, and has been convicted of such, they have forfeited their right to bear arms.
    For the time under which the government can legitimately punish the individual. After all punishment, probation, etc. has been completed, the full rights of the individual must once again be recognized.
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    Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    For the time under which the government can legitimately punish the individual. After all punishment, probation, etc. has been completed, the full rights of the individual must once again be recognized.
    Yeah, for running a red light.

    But you commit armed robbery... F-you and your rights.

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