View Poll Results: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights?

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  • A license/permit required to exercise certain or all 1st amendment rights

    6 15.79%
  • A license/permit required to exercise certain or all 2nd amendment rights

    22 57.89%
  • Registration requirement of some or all of your books and other 1st amendment related things

    2 5.26%
  • Registration requirement of some or all of your firearms and other weapons.

    30 78.95%
  • A ban on certain books,religions, what the press can report and etc.

    3 7.89%
  • A ban on certain weapons.

    24 63.16%
  • A ban on certain individuals from exercising 1st amendment rights

    3 7.89%
  • A ban on certain individuals form exercising 2nd amendment rights

    17 44.74%
  • A total ban on 1st amendment rights

    2 5.26%
  • A total ban on 2nd amendment rights

    3 7.89%
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    Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

    Quote Originally Posted by jacksbrat View Post
    I've always thought it was kinda silly to give guns special treatment just because they happened to have been invented and something new at the time the constitution was written.
    Is this really what you believe?

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    Why does someone's right to own a gun outwaigh my right to go outside without having to dodge bullets?
    It sounds like you are either being a drama king or you've living in a bad neighborhood, either of which can be remedied.
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    Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

    Quote Originally Posted by jacksbrat View Post
    Why does someone's right to own a gun outwaigh my right to go outside without having to dodge bullets?
    Because the never ending contest for liberty and freedom is greater than your near zero chance of randomly being shot. Jesus, people need to take statistics.
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    Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

    You left out the CORRECT answer -- NONE OF THE ABOVE.

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    Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

    Quote Originally Posted by Progressive86 View Post
    Well it sounds like a conspiracy but what I was getting at was the laws that we have now that make it harder for the law abiding citizens to have guns but easy for those who get them illegally.
    So basically the only thing unconstitutional laws do is ensure that only the thugs and government have certain weapons but not individuals who most likely are not going to harm any one?


    How so? All I'm saying is that I consider they should be registered and licensed. Not that we should exclude certain people from owning guns.
    So you would not mind the same standards being imposed of 1st amendment rights? As long as someone has a permit or license, takes the appropriate classes on hate speech, libel, threats against someone and treason they would still be able to say what ever they want, go to what ever church they want or report what they want or complain to the government.
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    Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

    Quote Originally Posted by ronpaulvoter View Post
    You left out the CORRECT answer -- NONE OF THE ABOVE.
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1058653573
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    Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

    Any restriction/regulation that meets a test of strict scrutiny - that is, acts prusuant to a comelling state interest in the least restrctive way possible.

    To that end:

    A license/permit required to exercise certain or all 1st amendment rights
    No

    A license/permit required to exercise certain or all 2nd amendment rights
    No

    Registration requirement of some or all of your books,newspaper and other 1st amendment related things
    No

    Registration requirement of some or all of your firearms and other weapons.
    No

    A ban on certain books,religions, what the press can report and etc.
    No

    A ban on certain weapons.
    No

    A ban on certain individuals from exercising 1st amendment rights
    No

    A ban on certain individuals form exercising 2nd amendment rights
    No

    A total ban on 1st amendment rights
    No

    A total ban on 2nd amendment rights
    No

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    Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

    Quote Originally Posted by Progressive86 View Post
    Most of the choices I believe are unreasonable but I think when it comes to certain issues with gun laws there should be some rules. I don't agree with the idea of unregistered gun owning and stuff like that....
    Why?
    How is registration of a gun -not- an infringement?

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    Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So basically the only thing unconstitutional laws do is ensure that only the thugs and government have certain weapons but not individuals who most likely are not going to harm any one?
    Unconstitutional laws do more than just that, I just think that a major component of that is when you take away the rights of the good citizens to have access to guns. That's what causes more problems because it almost pushes people to go into the direction of the black market or endanger those who don't have the right to arms themselves against those who have gotten them illegally.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So you would not mind the same standards being imposed of 1st amendment rights? As long as someone has a permit or license, takes the appropriate classes on hate speech, libel, threats against someone and treason they would still be able to say what ever they want, go to what ever church they want or report what they want or complain to the government.
    No, Absolutely not. I didn't even select that as one of my choices because I'm against that. Freedom of speech is a right that I believe ALL people should be able to exercise, Not just people with licenses and permits.
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    Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

    None of the above.

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    Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

    Quote Originally Posted by jacksbrat View Post
    I've always thought it was kinda silly to give guns special treatment just because they happened to have been invented and something new at the time the constitution was written.
    Guns were not something new at the time.You should perhaps do a little research before making such idiotic statements.Portable firearms have at least been around at least since the 1300s in Europe(much earlier in China).


    Like stated above, cars are licensed regestered. The driver has to be of age, trained, licenced and insured. And the purpose of a car is just to transport someone from here to there.
    A car is not a constitutional right, I am pretty sure that if they had cars back then then it might have been in the Constitution. If you want people to be trained in fire arm safety then petition the government to make make firearms safety a mandatory class in public schools.Since it is a right you can not legally(any such laws would be a violation of the constitution and therefore illegal) make it an actual requirement to purchase a firearm.


    Yet we have guns that are made for one purpose, and that's to kill,
    Since the Chinese first discovered gun powder and figured out that you can use it to propel objects out of a tube that has been the purpose of any fire arm regardless if it is a canon, machine gun, hand canon/hand gun or some other type of gun.
    If they were made to tickle people then I do not think anyone would want one.



    and we're suppose to let any Tom, Dick, or Harry that can reach the top of a counter and flop the money down to buy all he wants.
    Yes. Because it is a right in this country to keep and bear arms.

    That's just plain silly.
    No its not,what is silly is you thinking that your desire to feel a 100% safe trumps constitutional rights.

    Why does someone's right to own a gun outwaigh my right to go outside without having to dodge bullets?
    You must live on a gun range if you are having to doge bullets. I live in Oklahoma too and I never had to dodge a bullet in any neighborhoods I lived in.
    Last edited by jamesrage; 03-31-10 at 01:54 PM.
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    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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