View Poll Results: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights?

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  • A license/permit required to exercise certain or all 1st amendment rights

    6 15.79%
  • A license/permit required to exercise certain or all 2nd amendment rights

    22 57.89%
  • Registration requirement of some or all of your books and other 1st amendment related things

    2 5.26%
  • Registration requirement of some or all of your firearms and other weapons.

    30 78.95%
  • A ban on certain books,religions, what the press can report and etc.

    3 7.89%
  • A ban on certain weapons.

    24 63.16%
  • A ban on certain individuals from exercising 1st amendment rights

    3 7.89%
  • A ban on certain individuals form exercising 2nd amendment rights

    17 44.74%
  • A total ban on 1st amendment rights

    2 5.26%
  • A total ban on 2nd amendment rights

    3 7.89%
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    Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    He said "the government should just stay the hell out of the way and let people live their lives."
    And your rsponse was relevant, because...?

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    Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    And your rsponse was relevant, because...?
    Because it's hard to live your life if someone is shooting you to death.

    Do I really have to spell this one out for you?

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    Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    It's not inconsistent at all.
    The failure to prosecute negates the argument of a compelling state interest.
    Thus, inconsistent.

    Perhaps you just dont understand what 'compllling state interest' means.

    It's like posting a guard at a door and not letting anyone in who doesn't have an invitation. You don't have to arrest everyone who asks to get in but doesn't have one.
    Nowhere near a valid comaprison, unless:
    -There is a compelling state interest in not letting people in w/o an invite
    -On that basis, everyone's rights are infringed
    -Trying to get in w/o an invite is a felony

    Noen of these things are true, so the comparison fails.

    Its ACTUALLY like, as noted before, creating laws against drunk driving, specifiying mandatory penalties for those that do, infringing on the rights of every driver on the road, and then refusing to prosecute those that are caught.

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    Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Because it's hard to live your life if someone is shooting you to death.
    So... its -not- relevant.
    Thanks.

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    Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    I will take your lack of answer as conceding the issue. Like you did with mine.
    You clearly did not read the post, as the answer is there, direct and plain as day.

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    Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    He said "the government should just stay the hell out of the way and let people live their lives."
    Oh lordie. You are taking it out of context. Get real already. Goobie is right, your comment is not relevant at all. The government is there to protect our rights, and those rights are life, liberty and property. If someone shoots you, the government intervenes. Do I really have to spell all of this out for you. If you are truly a literal junkie, then life must be difficult, I tell you.

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    Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

    Quote Originally Posted by Flea View Post
    Oh lordie. You are taking it out of context. Get real already. Goobie is right, your comment is not relevant at all. The government is there to protect our rights, and those rights are life, liberty and property. If someone shoots you, the government intervenes. Do I really have to spell all of this out for you. If you are truly a literal junkie, then life must be difficult, I tell you.
    My comment was completely relevant.

    If someone shoots you, the government intervenes - but you're already dead!

    So if the government wants to protect my right to life, it's perfectly appropriate to do so with preventive measures such as trying to keep guns out of the hands of those who might shoot me.

    Now, you can argue that those measures are ineffective or unconstitutional, but they aren't inappropriate for protecting my right to life.

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    Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    My comment was completely relevant.

    If someone shoots you, the government intervenes - but you're already dead!

    So if the government wants to protect my right to life, it's perfectly appropriate to do so with preventive measures such as trying to keep guns out of the hands of those who might shoot me.

    Now, you can argue that those measures are ineffective or unconstitutional, but they aren't inappropriate for protecting my right to life.
    And since you never know who might shoot you, it's prudent to remove all weapons.
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    Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    My comment was completely relevant.

    If someone shoots you, the government intervenes - but you're already dead!

    So if the government wants to protect my right to life, it's perfectly appropriate to do so with preventive measures such as trying to keep guns out of the hands of those who might shoot me.

    Now, you can argue that those measures are ineffective or unconstitutional, but they aren't inappropriate for protecting my right to life.
    You probably would support a cancer treatment that would kill 95% of your healthy cells and only 5% of the malignant ones because after all you want the DOCTOR TO DO SOMETHING!!

    that is what gun control does-it disarms many many more honest people than criminals and increases crime because armed citizens are a strong shield against criminal activity



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    Re: What are reasonable restrictions/infringements on 1st and second amendment rights

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    And since you never know who might shoot you, it's prudent to remove all weapons.
    I believe M2 is what we call a contrarian--someone who wants to argue for the sake of arguing and after he runs out of legitimate arguments and has been given the "black knight treatment" (King Arthur: what are you gonna do-bleed on me?) he continues with increasingly inane bits of nonsense just to keep arguing



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