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    Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Here's the case: FOXNews.com - Adult Trial for Boy in Death of Pa. Woman, Fetus

    They are trying this boy as an adult. If you go to the article, you'll see a photo of the boy.

    An 11 year old is very young. At 11 most kids haven't even started puberty. How can a child that young be considered an adult? Is this kid any more unreformable than many young thugs? What he allegedly did was horrible, but he is not anywhere near adulthood.

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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    Here's the case: FOXNews.com - Adult Trial for Boy in Death of Pa. Woman, Fetus

    They are trying this boy as an adult. If you go to the article, you'll see a photo of the boy.

    An 11 year old is very young. At 11 most kids haven't even started puberty. How can a child that young be considered an adult? Is this kid any more unreformable than many young thugs? What he allegedly did was horrible, but he is not anywhere near adulthood.
    I would say no, but I think we need to hold the standard a bit closer. We have juvenile and adult court systems and there's supposed to be addressed by age. I don't think you should ever try a minor as an adult, no matter how heinous the crime. It's why we made the distinction in the first place. Either have it or don't. Even though the crime is sever, I don't think it's proper especially in this case of an 11 year old to try him as an adult.
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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Unless affected by some level of mental retardation, an 11 year old brain is fully aware of the conceptuality of right and wrong.

    This kid should be tried as an adult.

    Prison has nothing to do with reform. It has to do with punishment. If that was the case, crimes with excessively high rates of recidivism such as child molestation would be life-sentence crimes after the first conviction.

    If laws like that were enforced, I would've gone out a week before my 18th birthday and robbed several banks, buried the money somewhere, and went to juvy for a few days.

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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Unless affected by some level of mental retardation, an 11 year old brain is fully aware of the conceptuality of right and wrong.
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    You falsify this claim by making it.
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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    I think that those under the age of 12 who commit a heinous crime should be taken to undergo psychiatric treatment for a time. They need to undergo proper socialization. For those who are impossible to socialize and are proven to be a danger to society, I think they should be locked up in a secure community where they have a pretty free reign within it but are not allowed to go outside it. That way they can live in a protected and structured environment without the risk of being a danger to anyone.

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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Unless affected by some level of mental retardation, an 11 year old brain is fully aware of the conceptuality of right and wrong.

    This kid should be tried as an adult.

    Prison has nothing to do with reform. It has to do with punishment. If that was the case, crimes with excessively high rates of recidivism such as child molestation would be life-sentence crimes after the first conviction.

    If laws like that were enforced, I would've gone out a week before my 18th birthday and robbed several banks, buried the money somewhere, and went to juvy for a few days.
    There's a big difference in the whys and wherefores of what an 11-year-old does and what a 17-year-old does.

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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Unless affected by some level of mental retardation, an 11 year old brain is fully aware of the conceptuality of right and wrong.
    An 11 year old brain is not the same as an adult brain. Often the higher orders of morality don't develop until the teens. Children can't understand abstract thoughts the same as an adult or comprehend the world they are in. Now, should a kid know it's wrong to murder at 11? I'd say yes, if for nothing else than understanding direct punishment upon them. Still, at the same accord a child is a child and we can't be prosecuting them as adults since they are not adults.
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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    I bet if he had sex with an 18 year old they wouldnt treat him as an adult.
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper
    You falsify this claim by making it.
    I'll tell Piaget and a plethora of other psychologists and neurophysicists how you disagree with them.

    I'll adopt the liberal view - set all criminals free or give some BS explanation as to why they do things and "rehabilitate" them with a stern talking-to.

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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    If he isn't treated as an adult in any other respect, why should this be any different?

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