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In prison he very like will.
That's just sick.:naughty
In prison he very like will.
While I'm glad to see everyone accepting the premise that the death of a fetus is a crime, I'm left wondering why the father hasn't been charged for leaving his shot gun accessible to a minor.
Excellent point, Jerry! I very much agree.
Well, you know, even if they think out a crime, children aren't developed enough to have a cold criminal mind. They're to emotionally and physiologically immature...which is exactly why we have laws against minors owning firearms...they tend to do stupid **** like kill their pregnant step-mothers to-be. I would bet that in his mind he was just trying to stop the further destruction of his family, the woman steeling the only parent we know is in his life, and from being replaced altogether by a new sibling. It's a child's rationality which inspired him to act, not an adult's.
IMO the kid should be tried as a minor, and the father should be charged with homicide.
One of the news sites, I think the one I linked but I'm not sure, explained that it was the 11 year old's own gun, a smaller shotgun made for kids, that he would often shoot with his dad on their land.
No it wouldn't. All it would tell him is that if he shoots someone again then he'll just get imprisoned again.
And this is when you tell me, "Well, that's why we put murderers to death for killing other people so they won't pursue that behavior again and kill again."
To which I will retort, "That may be the case, but 1) if we treated him properly for the first murder he likely would not have done the second and 2) your solution doesn't work for less severe crimes, such as professional burglary. If all we do is punish burglars for stealing things then all they'll do is steal things with the expectation of getting imprisoned. However, if we find the root cause of why they steal, which is likely because they are uneducated, unskilled, or feel they don't have any promising job opportunities, treat that, help them get educated, help them get job skills, and offer them fair and gainful employment then we take away their reasoning for further pursuing future criminal behavior."
Oh, so the Dad bought his unstable kid his own gun, and gave him unlimited access to it, that makes it all okay...
I have no problem with a children's wing in a prison as long as it is actually like a prison.
Forget the 11 year olds. Just hold them until they are older, and retry them as adults, if you want to kill them. All I want is to remove kids who are killers from the streets.
as liberal as i am, i believe yes, some children should be tried as adults. sociopathy is not curable.Here's the case: FOXNews.com - Adult Trial for Boy in Death of Pa. Woman, Fetus
They are trying this boy as an adult. If you go to the article, you'll see a photo of the boy.
An 11 year old is very young. At 11 most kids haven't even started puberty. How can a child that young be considered an adult? Is this kid any more unreformable than many young thugs? What he allegedly did was horrible, but he is not anywhere near adulthood.
as liberal as i am, i believe yes, some children should be tried as adults. sociopathy is not curable.
i don't know about the circumstances with this particular boy.
I think it's a little difficult to pin "sociopathy" on this particular kid though. Definitely disturbed and definitely didn't have any concept of how his action could be permanent. But I think those might be some anger management and latent rage type things stemming from his home life, if anything.
agreed, as i said, i don't know about this particular boy. was there another link with more details?I think it's a little difficult to pin "sociopathy" on this particular kid though. Definitely disturbed and definitely didn't have any concept of how his action could be permanent. But I think those might be some anger management and latent rage type things stemming from his home life, if anything.
I agree with you except, yes, an 11 year old knows death is permanent. I knew that at 5 as I recall.
But this boy was deeply disturbed and had inner rage that he was unable to control. Add to that access to a loaded weapon and, there you have it.
but limits are put on those activities to safeguard children. sometimes society needs to be protected from kids who kill.Until the drinking age, smoking age, right to vote, gambling age, legal sexual consent age, and certain other age-dependent restrictive laws become applied based on the individual situation, I will never support the application of punitive laws based upon the situation.
but limits are put on those activities to safeguard children. sometimes society needs to be protected from kids who kill.
but limits are put on those activities to safeguard children.
sometimes society needs to be protected from kids who kill.
but limits are put on those activities to safeguard children. sometimes society needs to be protected from kids who kill.
That's why I voted that the justice system needs another alternative for these types of disturbing cases. Trying them as adults doesn't seem like a fair or rational approach, nor does trying them in the juvenile system, only to release them at age 21 as hardened criminals at the age when criminal capabilities and tendencies are at their peak.
It's well known that aging does a lot to quell violent tendencies in men. It just doesn't make practical sense to send an already violent prone boy into the juvenile detention system, where he will most certainly be exposed to young, violent criminals as his main role models.
That's why I voted that the justice system needs another alternative for these types of disturbing cases. Trying them as adults doesn't seem like a fair or rational approach, nor does trying them in the juvenile system, only to release them at age 21 as hardened criminals at the age when criminal capabilities and tendencies are at their peak.
It's well known that aging does a lot to quell violent tendencies in men. It just doesn't make practical sense to send an already violent prone boy into the juvenile detention system, where he will most certainly be exposed to young, violent criminals as his main role models.
but he is a young, violent criminal. should we segregate them all? there's no good answer here.That's why I voted that the justice system needs another alternative for these types of disturbing cases. Trying them as adults doesn't seem like a fair or rational approach, nor does trying them in the juvenile system, only to release them at age 21 as hardened criminals at the age when criminal capabilities and tendencies are at their peak.
It's well known that aging does a lot to quell violent tendencies in men. It just doesn't make practical sense to send an already violent prone boy into the juvenile detention system, where he will most certainly be exposed to young, violent criminals as his main role models.