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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    So, what is your solution? This boy is likely a sociopath with a great potential for future destructive acts.

    Putting this type into the juvenile justice system will only turn him into a hardened criminal. Youth Authority Prisons are very rough places with gangs based on racial groupings, and violence. Then, these young people are released in their early 20s at an age when they are most likely to wreck havoc on society.
    My solution is that he should get severe psychological treatment to see if he can be socialized to be a productive and non-harmful member of society. If he can't be, then he should be secured in a place that is far less violent that prisons are.

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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Our system is based on so much hypocrisy.

    We don't let children under 18 view "adult films" or smoke cigarettes because he believe their minds are not mature enough to handle it.

    Hell, we don't even let "adults" drink alcohol or gamble under they hit the age of 21 for the same reasons.

    Yet...he believe that children as young as 11 should be treated the same as adults in the criminal justice system.

    Where is the logic in that?
    For some people, especially preteen kids who premeditate the murder of their mother, there is no hope in redemeption, because the individual sees nothing wrong with their actions, or enjoyed it, or something similar. In those cases, we, as a society, have no choice but to imprison said individual, and in some cases, kill them.
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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    My solution is that he should get severe psychological treatment to see if he can be socialized to be a productive and non-harmful member of society. If he can't be, then he should be secured in a place that is far less violent that prisons are.
    Or a few life sentences, so he doesn't get out. I imagine that it would cost less then a psychological center attempting to make this kid a productive member of society.
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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Or a few life sentences, so he doesn't get out. I imagine that it would cost less then a psychological center attempting to make this kid a productive member of society.
    Having a justice system where we quickly decide cases without much time for deliberating on those cases would speed up the trial process and thus cost less. That doesn't make it right or fair either.

    And, in the long run, depending on how it's done, it may wind up being cheaper.

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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Having a justice system where we quickly decide cases without much time for deliberating on those cases would speed up the trial process and thus cost less. That doesn't make it right or fair either.

    And, in the long run, depending on how it's done, it may wind up being cheaper.
    That is true. But thankfully, we can achieve a decision that is fair, just, and relatively inexpensive when you have premeditated murder committed by a minor.
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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    That is true. But thankfully, we can achieve a decision that is fair, just, and relatively inexpensive when you have premeditated murder committed by a minor.
    How can you have a fair, just, and relatively inexpensive decision when you've already sentenced this kid for premeditated murder without a trial?

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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    How can you have a fair, just, and relatively inexpensive decision when you've already sentenced this kid for premeditated murder without a trial?
    I'm a layman, and I'm not on a jury, so I can afford to be an arm-chair judge/attorney. When the kid's trial comes around, then I personally expect an adult sentence on him, but that's just me. In any case, this kid killed his mother, and his future brother/sister with premeditated murder.
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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Treating an 11 year old as an adult is the result of a system bent on punishment and little else.

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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    He should be tried as an adult as soon as he gains the right to vote, drink, or join the army.
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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    I'm a layman, and I'm not on a jury, so I can afford to be an arm-chair judge/attorney. When the kid's trial comes around, then I personally expect an adult sentence on him, but that's just me. In any case, this kid killed his mother, and his future brother/sister with premeditated murder.
    I'm a layman too, I admit. However, I want to see more facts surrounding this case and find out exactly what is going on with this kid to make him kill his pregnant mother. I'm not condoning what the kid did or explaining it away. Rather, I want to first see if this kid can be helped first and, if he can, make sure he gets it before tossing him to the garbage heap.

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