It IS a little ironic that in another active thread on this site there are many people clamoring for the UN Childrens Bill of Rights which promotes the idea that children have more autonomy and ultimately choice and responsibility. But at the same time children under 17 should be FREE from responsibility...or at least have their responsibility lessoned. I VAGUELY remember 12. I certainly remember 14. I did things which came with consequence and deservedly so. I knew right from wrong, yes, even then. I wlived on my own for quite a while when I was 12 til I moved in with my brother (NOT a great environment). I worked full time til they found out i was under 15.
We forget that barely 100 years ago people were married at fifteen...had families...farms...worked...were treated as adults. We have DEvolved to a large degree...taken AWAY the responsibility and burden from kids...to their detriment.
There ARE violent children out there. They arent the norm...and they shouldnt be treated as the norm. Arbitrary judgement based on age puts society at risk. We will disagree.