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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    And yet we see plenty of children, or at least minors, being tried and convicted as adults. I think a few have been put on death row, but I'm not sure about that part.

    As such, our legal system can and has given adult punishments to minors, for committing crimes.
    Just because a government can or has done something doesn't mean it's right for them to do it.

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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Men who commit physical violence on women can go to jail for assault and battery. So does that mean that a little boy who smacks and fights with his sister should go to jail for that crime too?
    If he kills her, he should definitely be sent to jail or put on death row, IMO. If he simply hurts his sister, of course depending on the severity of her injuries, either his parents can handle it, or he can be put in juvenile hall if he is a repeat offender.

    Children should be understood, and they should get lesser punishments for some crimes; murder is not one of those.
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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart
    Men who commit physical violence on women can go to jail for assault and battery. So does that mean that a little boy who smacks and fights with his sister should go to jail for that crime too?
    1. Go to google.com

    2. Enter "mens rea" in the search.

    3. Read.

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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Just because a government can or has done something doesn't mean it's right for them to do it.
    Then go ahead and take that to the Supreme Court, see how far you get with cases of when a child takes his neighbors, gags and ties them with rope, and then drowns them, after ransacking their house.

    I'll see if I can find the specific link for that case. The murderer was 17 when he committed the crimes.
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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    I think it's wrong to try them as adults, because, well, they're not... They may understand the difference between right and wrong, but they aren't thinking like adults yet. They're not fully in control of their feelings, their actions and the potential consequences.

    That said, I'm all for locking up the ones who commit the most heinous crimes such as the one in the OP or the James Bulger murder case in the UK. Some of these kids should clearly be removed from society. I kinda like samsmart's idea of putting them in some kind of secure community where they can continue their education and be monitored by psychologists, maybe even get a job on site later on.
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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Then go ahead and take that to the Supreme Court, see how far you get with cases of when a child takes his neighbors, gags and ties them with rope, and then drowns them, after ransacking their house.

    I'll see if I can find the specific link for that case. The murderer was 17 when he committed the crimes.
    We're not talking about 17-year-olds here. We're talking about an 11-year-old. Big difference.

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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    I kinda like samsmart's idea of putting them in some kind of secure community where they can continue their education and be monitored by psychologists, maybe even get a job on site later on.
    At the expense of taxpayers?

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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    We're not talking about 17-year-olds here. We're talking about an 11-year-old. Big difference.
    Yes, but legally they are the same. They are both minors. And if an 11 year old picks up a shotgun, points it at his mother, and pulls the trigger, and she dies because of it, that kid is a murderer.

    Unless his lawyers can prove he didn't pick that gun up, it misfired, or some other irregularity which proves he didn't pick it up, point, and shoot his mother, he is a killer, and should be treated as one.
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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Fry 'em...........

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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by emdash View Post
    At the expense of taxpayers?
    Yes, of course. Who else is going to pay for it? What else do you suggest? The death penalty for pre-teens?
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