View Poll Results: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    No because then you start adding subjectivity to the law and to justice. That's not acceptable.
    lol..you have that right now..??? Prosecutors DECIDE with in the law who gets indicted and who doesnt...same thing

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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Why the hostility? I just asked a simple question after all.
    Sorry. I just got highly offended at how people are dehumanizing this boy. I don't see how people can't view the adults in his life as having failed him and instead want to destroy anything of value left in him.

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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sentinel View Post
    lol..you have that right now..??? Prosecutors DECIDE with in the law who gets indicted and who doesnt...same thing
    No, it isn't the same thing. They have guidelines that are applied stictly and logically. There is a process they go through to determine culpability.

    You are talking about blurring those guidelines or erasing them altogether by making the age limitations on adult and juvenile justice completely arbitrary. That is not how the law and justice work.

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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    It is a fact.....
    He has far more potential to be dangerous than a rabid dog, regardless of how he got to that place.......
    He relied on cunning, not instinct to kill.....
    The only way to know if he is truly 'cured' is that he doesn't kill again.....
    Why take that chance?......
    You may take great relief that Jall is willing to test if the child is cured.... not so sure his family would so willingly be the test subjects however.
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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    Latest.............

    12-Year-Old Murder Suspect To Be Tried As An Adult In Lawrence County - kdka.com


    NEW CASTLE (KDKA) ―A judge in Lawrence County has ruled that a boy accused of murdering his father's pregnant fiancée should be tried as an adult.

    This will make him one of the youngest defendants in Pennsylvania history to face a trial for first-degree murder.

    Good, it will serve as a warning to other young would be killers that they can no longer hide behind their youth to escape punishment for their misdeeds....

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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    No, it isn't the same thing. They have guidelines that are applied stictly and logically. There is a process they go through to determine culpability.

    You are talking about blurring those guidelines or erasing them altogether by making the age limitations on adult and juvenile justice completely arbitrary. That is not how the law and justice work.
    And its the same process for these two kids and their very different murders...

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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sentinel View Post
    And its the same process for these two kids and their very different murders...
    Except that you are ignoring the very first standard which is whether they are adults or not. And clearly, a 10, 11, or 12 year old is not.

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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    Good, it will serve as a warning to other young would be killers that they can no longer hide behind their youth to escape punishment for their misdeeds....
    Exactly how many other 11 year olds do you think follow stories like this in the paper or on the news? Your bloodlust directed at a child is disgusting.

    It leads one to wonder who is more disturbed...
    Last edited by jallman; 03-30-10 at 03:57 PM.

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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Exactly how many other 11 year olds do you think follow stories like this in the paper or on the news? Your bloodlust directed at a child is disgusting.

    It leads one to wonder who is more disturbed...
    Hmmm, when did they stop teaching 'current events' in school?....
    Not to mention online, you tube, etc.....

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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    Hmmm, when did they stop teaching 'current events' in school?....
    Not to mention online, you tube, etc.....;
    Current events was never taught until high school. Since when does an 11 year old take current events.

    Oh, let me put that in something you'll understand.

    Better now?

    Further, you still did not address my question: how many 11 year olds do you think are going to follow this story in the news?

    Your demented attacks on this boy's civil rights are seriously cause for concern. That we have anyone who claims to be a conservative american this ignorant of civics is a testament to a failing education system.
    Last edited by jallman; 03-30-10 at 04:09 PM.

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