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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I disagree with it being "society's" job to enforce those rules. But even still, the point remains that not ALL children need to be safeguarded form certain behaviors. A responsible 16 year-old living on her own with a steady job shouldn't be prevented from having a drink if she so chooses.

    Hence my inclusion of "situation-dependent" application in my statement.

    As it stands, such a 16 year old isn't granted equal rights based on her maturity and responsibility. Hell, an actual 18-year old who lives on their own and has a steady job isn't granted that equal right.

    I think that's asinine personally, but if that's how our law works, it should be evenly applied for things we agree with as well as things we disagree with.



    And sometimes kids who kill need to be protected from society.
    i don't think it matters that we didn't let the boy drink, the boy committed murder. 2 very different situation dependent scenarios.

    now, what we do with him can be argued, that's certain. but he didn't just lose his 11 year old temper, he killed that woman in cold blood. we need to find out if he's capable of reform. if so, he should be released at some point. but not at 18, i don't think.

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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    Something potentially far more dangerous than a rabid dog.....
    No, not even close despite the stupid winkies and other emoticons that add zero substance to the post.

    The rabid dog is not curable. The rabid dog has no human empathy. This is a disturbed little boy who has been failed by the adults around him. This dehumanizing language used to describe him is sick and disgusting.

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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    No, not even close despite the stupid winkies and other emoticons that add zero substance to the post.

    The rabid dog is not curable. The rabid dog has no human empathy. This is a disturbed little boy who has been failed by the adults around him. This dehumanizing language used to describe him is sick and disgusting.
    Again..... after treatment, would you have him for a sleep over with your children or grand children?

    Would you risk the life of you and yours? Or just the life of some that you don't know.
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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Again..... after treatment, would you have him for a sleep over with your children or grand children?

    Would you risk the life of you and yours? Or just the life of some that you don't know.
    Sure, I would be willing to give the boy a chance. I know that probably just blows your little mind, but some human beings are capable of setting aside their emotions in pursuit of preserving human rights, dignity and potential.

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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Two true scenarios very different....

    We arrested an 10 yr old boy who had killed his mothers boyfriend..The boy was awakened by his mothers screams..he ran outside and his mothers boyfriend had her on her back on the steps beating her violently...the boy tried to pull him off but could not...his mother became silent the BF kept beating her...the boy ran in the house grabbed a kitchen knife ran out stabbed him in the back once and killed him...WE did NOT want to arrest this boy..hardened cops were very much upset...

    Second Scenario

    We arrested a boy..Im not sure of his age but he was very young...murdered a girl in her hallway as she came home from the store because she refused to perform oral sex on him on his demand...he stabbed her numerous times...WE were quite happy to lock him up even though we would have preferred to bury him instead...

    My point is this...trying 11 yr olds should be OPTIONAL based on the situation and the circumstances...it should not be set in stone either way...just my humble opinion

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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sentinel View Post
    Two true scenarios very different....

    We arrested an 10 yr old boy who had killed his mothers boyfriend..The boy was awakened by his mothers screams..he ran outside and his mothers boyfriend had her on her back on the steps beating her violently...the boy tried to pull him off but could not...his mother became silent the BF kept beating her...the boy ran in the house grabbed a kitchen knife ran out stabbed him in the back once and killed him...WE did NOT want to arrest this boy..hardened cops were very much upset...

    Second Scenario

    We arrested a boy..Im not sure of his age but he was very young...murdered a girl in her hallway as she came home from the store because she refused to perform oral sex on him on his demand...he stabbed her numerous times...WE were quite happy to lock him up even though we would have preferred to bury him instead...

    My point is this...trying 11 yr olds should be OPTIONAL based on the situation and the circumstances...it should not be set in stone either way...just my humble opinion
    No because then you start adding subjectivity to the law and to justice. That's not acceptable.

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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Sure, I would be willing to give the boy a chance. I know that probably just blows your little mind, but some human beings are capable of setting aside their emotions in pursuit of preserving human rights, dignity and potential.
    Why the hostility? I just asked a simple question after all.
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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    No, not even close despite the stupid winkies and other emoticons that add zero substance to the post.

    The rabid dog is not curable. The rabid dog has no human empathy. This is a disturbed little boy who has been failed by the adults around him. This dehumanizing language used to describe him is sick and disgusting.
    It is a fact.....
    He has far more potential to be dangerous than a rabid dog, regardless of how he got to that place.......
    He relied on cunning, not instinct to kill.....
    The only way to know if he is truly 'cured' is that he doesn't kill again.....
    Why take that chance?......

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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    It is a fact.....
    No it is not a fact. It is a subjective comparison. Period.

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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Latest.............

    12-Year-Old Murder Suspect To Be Tried As An Adult In Lawrence County - kdka.com


    NEW CASTLE (KDKA) ―A judge in Lawrence County has ruled that a boy accused of murdering his father's pregnant fiancée should be tried as an adult.

    This will make him one of the youngest defendants in Pennsylvania history to face a trial for first-degree murder.


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