View Poll Results: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    That's just sick.
    While I do not believe that our system is sick, I do believe that many improvements are possible. The parents,if any, apparently did not act in a responsible manner..

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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    but he is a young, violent criminal. should we segregate them all? there's no good answer here.
    He's mostly likely very, very significantly younger than most youthful, post-pubescent offenders, who would prey upon him, and grossly abuse his vulnerability.

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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    He's mostly likely very, very significantly younger than most youthful, post-pubescent offenders, who would prey upon him, and grossly abuse his vulnerability.
    that may be true. it seems pennsylvania law doesn't have many options here. i would interested to see some psychiatric reports.


    from everything i've seen, the kid very calmly shot her and then went to school. premeditated.

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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    Treating an 11 year old as an adult is the result of a system bent on punishment and little else.
    The easy solution is prevention:
    More strict gun control laws
    Better people/more power to child protective services
    Better psychologists

    For now, we have many victims:
    the people(high and higher taxes, and fear)
    the slain
    and the killer
    He may rot in hell(our prison system)

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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    While I do not believe that our system is sick, I do believe that many improvements are possible. The parents,if any, apparently did not act in a responsible manner..
    That's really the crux of the matter to me. The reason minors are treated as minors is because there is an expectation that parents have more responsibility over the minor's behavior than the minor himself. Where do the adults in his life have to start taking some responsibility.

    We aren't talking about a 16 year old with the strength and force of will of a grown man. We're talking about an 11 year old. A tween.

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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Our system is based on so much hypocrisy.

    We don't let children under 18 view "adult films" or smoke cigarettes because he believe their minds are not mature enough to handle it.

    Hell, we don't even let "adults" drink alcohol or gamble under they hit the age of 21 for the same reasons.

    Yet...he believe that children as young as 11 should be treated the same as adults in the criminal justice system.

    Where is the logic in that?
    You are aware that the prison system has never cured anyone of anything (except possibly heterosexuality) in all of it's history? And that is not what prison is all about..... it's to separate criminals from normal society and to protect society from those criminals.

    Tell you what, why don't you volunteer to adopt this child after he gets out of juvenile detention in 3 or 4 years... are you up for that?
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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    I have a question and maybe someone can enlighten me on it since I can't seem to find any real info on it...

    If this kid is tried as an adult and convicted, will he go to a juvenile detention facility or will he go to an adult prison?

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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    My solution is that he should get severe psychological treatment to see if he can be socialized to be a productive and non-harmful member of society. If he can't be, then he should be secured in a place that is far less violent that prisons are.
    Would you adopt him after treatment?

    Let him socialize with your children or grand children?

    Have him for a sleep over after his treatment?

    In other words, would you be willing to bet the life of you and yours that after treatment he is safe?.... or are you only willing to bet someone else’s life on that.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Would you adopt him after treatment?

    Let him socialize with your children or grand children?

    Have him for a sleep over after his treatment?

    In other words, would you be willing to bet the life of you and yours that after treatment he is safe?.... or are you only willing to bet someone else’s life on that.
    We're talking about a child here, not a rabid dog.

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    Re: Should an 11 year old ever be tried as an adult?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    We're talking about a child here, not a rabid dog.
    Something potentially far more dangerous than a rabid dog.....

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