View Poll Results: Should we be allowed to recall congressman?

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  • Yes, we should be allowed to hold a popular vote whenever we want and recall them

    12 42.86%
  • Yes, we should be allowed to repeal them at special preset elections

    6 21.43%
  • Yes, we should implement a form of accountability other than voting them out of office prematurely

    4 14.29%
  • Yes, we should have an electronic election via cell phones or the internet whenever we want

    1 3.57%
  • Yes, we should have a protest, and if "x" number of people sign the congressman is recalled

    5 17.86%
  • No, however we should implement some form of accountability other than removing them from office

    4 14.29%
  • No, under no circumstance should we recall a congressman

    8 28.57%
  • Other (please explain)

    3 10.71%
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    Re: Should we be allowed to recall congressman?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Why was it the right thing to do for him to vote for the healthcare bill when his constituents didn't want it? He is a retiring Democrat and doesn't care what we think. Corruption and a blatant smack to the face of the American people must be avoided. They all need to remember who gave them power and they should be accountable to them, not to party ties and bribes/sweet deals.
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    Re: Should we be allowed to recall congressman?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    A politician is not obligated to vote based on polls, and should not be.
    Exactly. If we're going to be constantly recalling politicians because they are unpopular within their term, what's the point in having politicians in the first place? May as well make federal laws through direct democracy.

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    Re: Should we be allowed to recall congressman?

    Should we be allowed to recall congressman?

    No, it's a simple rule: direct democracy undermines and destroys representative democracy.

    If a representative can be removed for purely exercising his judgment without any malfeasance on his part, then, we don't really need representatives, we need automatons.
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    Re: Should we be allowed to recall congressman?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Why was it the right thing to do for him to vote for the healthcare bill when his constituents didn't want it? He is a retiring Democrat and doesn't care what we think. Corruption and a blatant smack to the face of the American people must be avoided. They all need to remember who gave them power and they should be accountable to them, not to party ties and bribes/sweet deals.
    Well since his constiuents already voted him into office, too bad.

    Still, however, I do like the idea of recalling a Senator when he/she starts to mess up real bad. I think the fact that the people reserve the right to do so will automatically have our Senators acting better.

    And introducing some term limits wouldn't hurt either, if that could ever pass that is.
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    Re: Should we be allowed to recall congressman?

    No. If you vote for a bad congressman you are stuck with him for the time you vote him into office.
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    Re: Should we be allowed to recall congressman?

    I am of two minds about this.

    1. We live in the age of 24/7 new network which hype up things, resulting in public overreaction to things. Heightened emotionality does not make for good politics.

    2. I believe the highest duty of the government is to be responsive to the people it represents.

    I am not sure which side to come down on.

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    Re: Should we be allowed to recall congressman?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I am of two minds about this.

    1. We live in the age of 24/7 new network which hype up things, resulting in public overreaction to things. Heightened emotionality does not make for good politics.

    2. I believe the highest duty of the government is to be responsive to the people it represents.

    I am not sure which side to come down on.
    How about both?

    For the first problem, obviously we need to somehow limit who can vote, and who would have the ability to recall a Congressman. This could be something like serving in the military, civil service, etc.

    For the second problem, we allow the constituents (as outlined in the above paragraph) to be able to recall the Congressmen, therefore putting more pressure on him to do what he is supposed to do: represent the people.
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    Re: Should we be allowed to recall congressman?

    There's also another hitch to this ability to recall Congressmen: the fact that most politicians aren't elected into office via majority votes anyways.

    In the U.S., we have plurality systems of elections. That means whoever gets the most vote wins, which is a plurality. But that allows candidates who get elected without a majority of votes if more than two candidates run for office.

    So under our current system, if three candidates run for the same office, and Candidate A gets 40% of the vote, Candidate B gets 25% of the vote, and Candidate C gets 35% of the vote, then Candidate A will win the election even though the majority of voters didn't vote for him.

    So if there's a recall election it would be very easy for 60% of the voters to reject him, even though, of all the candidates, he got the most votes.

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    Re: Should we be allowed to recall congressman?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I want to say yes, but I think it is fraught with too many problems. Congressional approval rates can be influenced by things outside of an actual congressman's control. Senator's are only there max 6 years, rep's 2 years. I think simply voting them out at the end of their term is good enough.

    The more I think about it, the more potential for abuse I see. The party not in power in a state would constantly be pushing for recalls at every opportunity. The cost and disruption would just be too great.
    I dunnno Redress, Louisiana has a recall law for all local and state representatives and I've only seen maybe two calls for it in my three decades on this planet, and this is one of the more politically corrupt states in the union. I think if recall law were made intentionally strict, like say a petition for recall would have to be 61% of registered voters in the district to hold election, election would have to have 55% in favor, things along that nature to make the process honest and intentionally difficult it could protect all parties involved from procedural abuse.
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    Re: Should we be allowed to recall congressman?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I dunnno Redress, Louisiana has a recall law for all local and state representatives and I've only seen maybe two calls for it in my three decades on this planet, and this is one of the more politically corrupt states in the union. I think if recall law were made intentionally strict, like say a petition for recall would have to be 61% of registered voters in the district to hold election, election would have to have 55% in favor, things along that nature to make the process honest and intentionally difficult it could protect all parties involved from procedural abuse.
    Those rules would make it almost impossible to do.

    What I see happening is as soon as one party tries to get another parties congressman recalled, the other party is going to take the first chance to get even, and then things get ugly. Do you really trust either party to not abuse the rules?
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