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    Re: Should the U.S. legalize drugs for Mexico's benefit?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Again Mexico is totally irrelevant in how we make our laws. If the gangs, cartels and military in Mexico start acting up then we eventually public outcry will demand that we stick the US military on the border and tell them to shoot at anything that does not go through a check point at the border(which is something that should have already been done).
    And to you that would be a preferable outcome to giving up the putative domestic "benefits" of prohibition?

    I know, we're talking about two things here - drug policy, and whether the US should make policy for its own benefit or for that of other countries. Obviously for its own benefit. Equally obvious, what happens in other countries - especially ones with which we share a lengthy border - affects our well being also.

    That concept can be abused - "we're all part of a kumbaya global village" - but concern about anarchy in Mexico is hardly that.

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    Re: Should the U.S. legalize drugs for Mexico's benefit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hayekian View Post
    And to you that would be a preferable outcome to giving up the putative domestic "benefits" of prohibition?

    I know, we're talking about two things here - drug policy, and whether the US should make policy for its own benefit or for that of other countries. Obviously for its own benefit. Equally obvious, what happens in other countries - especially ones with which we share a lengthy border - affects our well being also.
    This thread poll is asking whether or not we should legalize drugs for Mexico's benefit. So the domestic benefits does not apply in this thread.


    That concept can be abused - "we're all part of a kumbaya global village" - but concern about anarchy in Mexico is hardly that.
    I consider myself a nationalist/patriot and I think globalist are scum. so that kumbaya global village should be burned down to the ground with every globalist inside of it.
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    Re: Should the U.S. legalize drugs for Mexico's benefit?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Whats the price of marijuana in California and other states with legalized medicinal marijuana?
    It varies depending on the quality. It is less than the street price, even with tax added.

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    Re: Should the U.S. legalize drugs for Mexico's benefit?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    It varies depending on the quality. It is less than the street price, even with tax added.
    So what is the price range? I know when I used to smoke pot back in the 1990s a dime sack was $10, 1/8 was $20. half oz around $50-$60 dollars and oz was around $100-$120. What did the price drop down to in states with legalized marijuana?
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    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Should the U.S. legalize drugs for Mexico's benefit?

    [GOOGLE]Do you honestly believe organized crime folded up after the repeal of prohibition?Of course not, but, to remain criminal, they had to find other appropriate activities. Not difficult, either but with man's avarice, envy and greed.. Organized crime flourished after it was. That is proof. No, that is only a statement of your opinion.
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    Its only logical that when an activity becomes legal, its practitioners must be no longer law-breakers..
    Common sense.
    What man says is opinion ,not proof.
    Statistics and some verse behind them, these, I'd like to find...

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    Re: Should the U.S. legalize drugs for Mexico's benefit?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    But that doesn't answer the question: Do you believe the U.S. should legalize or decriminalize drugs to reduce drug violence in Mexico?
    Mexico decrminilized drugs last year. How has that worked out for them? Has the cartel violence gotten better, or worse?

    You have to ask what honey pot Caldorone has his hand in, if he wants to do something as stupid as legalizing drugs.
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    Re: Should the U.S. legalize drugs for Mexico's benefit?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Mexico decrminilized drugs last year. How has that worked out for them? Has the cartel violence gotten better, or worse?

    You have to ask what honey pot Caldorone has his hand in, if he wants to do something as stupid as legalizing drugs.
    I do not mean to play devils advocate but Mexico only decriminalized personal usage amount of drugs and they still try to get the individual take drug rehab or counseling from what I understand.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Should the U.S. legalize drugs for Mexico's benefit?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I do not mean to play devils advocate but Mexico only decriminalized personal usage amount of drugs and they still try to get the individual take drug rehab or counseling from what I understand.
    Granted, but the motivation for the idea was to reduce drug violence.
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    Re: Should the U.S. legalize drugs for Mexico's benefit?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Mexico decrminilized drugs last year. How has that worked out for them? Has the cartel violence gotten better, or worse?

    You have to ask what honey pot Caldorone has his hand in, if he wants to do something as stupid as legalizing drugs.
    While Mexico may have decriminalized drugs, they are still criminal here in the U.S., and State Department estimates say that 70% of marijuana and 90% of the cocaine that enters the U.S. flows in from Mexico. Mexican cartels aren't committing violence for control of the drug trade in Mexico but rather for control of the flow of drugs into the United States. U.S. consumption of drugs is what's fueling Mexican drug cartels. Cartels aren't fighting to make money off of drugs from other Mexicans but rather from Americans.

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    Re: Should the U.S. legalize drugs for Mexico's benefit?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Granted, but the motivation for the idea was to reduce drug violence.
    I think the motivation was so that the police do not have to waste their time of petty drug users. I think only a few "lets legalize drug idiots" assumed it was to reduce violence.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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