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Thread: The End of the Reagan Era?

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    The End of the Reagan Era?

    “I think you could say that, not to dramatize health care, it is the end of the Reagan era, in the sense of large-scale legislative initiatives. This is a marked departure from the Reagan era, which was really 30 years, I mean, a conservative consensus in the country.” — Mark Shields, columnist and PBS Newshour commentator¹

    What say you, does the passage of landmark health care reform legislation mark the end of the Reagan era?
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    Re: The End of the Reagan Era?

    Yes, I expect that government must now get serious about addressing the needs of our society including the fiscal solvency of its federal government. I expect we will pay more in taxes in the coming years and that government's involvement in environmental protection, consumer protection, food supply protection, and a host of other areas will grow because quite frankly for the capitalist system to work, we need effective regulations and protections.
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    Re: The End of the Reagan Era?

    I think that gives Reagan far too much credit.

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    Re: The End of the Reagan Era?

    Deficit spending that happened as a result of the "trickle down" theory is still going on, and even increasing. I say the Reagan era is just beginning.
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    Re: The End of the Reagan Era?

    The simple fact is that demographics are changing and the groups that traditionally support democrats are growing while the groups that traditionally support republicans are shrinking in relative size.

    I am going to need to dig it up, but Nate Silver did an analysis where he overlaid the voting trends for Kerry and Gore with 2008's group sizes and found out that they would have won both elections with 2008's mix of voters. That trend is likely to continue to at least 2040.

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    Re: The End of the Reagan Era?

    Not exactly.

    You still have many people in this country who identify with the Reagan years and Reagan broad-based ideology. Right now it is that they are coming to a collision with those who do not subscribe to it. Again, as Irving Howe said, Reaganite/Thatcherite/Kristolite conservatism versus Democratic Socialism. Though I realize I could offend some liberals who do not view their President as a subscriber to Democratic Socialism, which is fair enough, and point conceded to a degree.
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    Re: The End of the Reagan Era?

    Since Reagan's election, Democrats have never held both the Presidency and Congress for more than 2 years. I suspect that will continue to be true.

    EDIT: The "Reagan Era" wasn't so much about Reagan himself as it was about the change in public opinion that came with him. Since public opinion wasn't for the health care bill, it is inaccurate to suggest that the bill ended the era unless it becomes popular later.
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    Re: The End of the Reagan Era?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    “I think you could say that, not to dramatize health care, it is the end of the Reagan era, in the sense of large-scale legislative initiatives. This is a marked departure from the Reagan era, which was really 30 years, I mean, a conservative consensus in the country.” — Mark Shields, columnist and PBS Newshour commentator¹

    What say you, does the passage of landmark health care reform legislation mark the end of the Reagan era?
    I've always felt the Reagan era ended a few years after his Presidency. After that, it really hasn't been the same as him, and since he died, the Republican Party has taken a turn for the worse. Whether it'll go back to his standards remains to be seen, but thats different story.
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    Re: The End of the Reagan Era?

    I would say the Reagan Era ended after GHW Bush's tenure in the Presidency. When he got out, Clinton did quite a bit to reinvigorate government services. GW Bush didn't lessen government services, only outsourced them to no-bid contracts and supported corporate welfare. Now, because of distrust of private corporations, people want redundancy with the government. Personally, I think people don't want a society where services are either all private or all public. I think what this health care reform shows is that people want redundancy: if the private services won't fulfill their jobs then the people will want the government to do it for them.

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    Re: The End of the Reagan Era?

    I think the Reagan Era is characterized by the absence of large government initiatives and passage of tax cuts on top of tax cuts on top of tax cuts.

    Health care reform is a big initiative and maybe the first of several, e.g., financial regulatory reform, immigration reform, energy policy reform, which are badly needed by the country at the beginning of the twenty-first century. And, I doubt that tax cuts outside of economic stimulation programs, are really in the offing at this point in the face of these enormous deficits.

    The Reagan Era is truly over.
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