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    Re: Is the New Tanning Tax Racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    If that is not a racist and stupid statement, I don't know what is.



    Oh bull****.

    It's a luxury tax, race had nothing to do with it.

    ****ing morons.
    It's not a luxury tax. It's a, "we wanna control your lifestyle because we're going to pick up the tab", tax. If the government is worried that a person's lifestyle will cost them more money in medical care expenses, then let's not work towards single payer healthcare. But, we know it ain't about that. Don't we? It's about, "if we can get away with this, we can get away with the other **** we wanna do".

    Your freedom is being taken away from you, while you sit back and try to look like a cool non-partisan. I'll see ya in the camp. Maybe we can get assigned to the same barracks and go on the same work details and talk more about it.
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    Re: Is the New Tanning Tax Racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's not a luxury tax. It's a, "we wanna control your lifestyle because we're going to pick up the tab", tax. If the government is worried that a person's lifestyle will cost them more money in medical care expenses, then let's not work towards single payer healthcare. But, we know it ain't about that. Don't we? It's about, "if we can get away with this, we can get away with the other **** we wanna do".
    Tanning is a frivolous and useless thing. If people want it, cool but the tax is nothing more than the same type of tax on motorcycles or cigarettes in every state for example.

    This is irrelevant to my statement, or the one you made about this tax being racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Your freedom is being taken away from you, while you sit back and try to look like a cool non-partisan. I'll see ya in the camp. Maybe we can get assigned to the same barracks and go on the same work details and talk more about it.
    Nothing but silly hyperbole.

    This has again nothing to do with your comments or my response to them.
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    Re: Is the New Tanning Tax Racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's not a luxury tax. It's a, "we wanna control your lifestyle because we're going to pick up the tab", tax. If the government is worried that a person's lifestyle will cost them more money in medical care expenses, then let's not work towards single payer healthcare. But, we know it ain't about that. Don't we? It's about, "if we can get away with this, we can get away with the other **** we wanna do".

    Your freedom is being taken away from you, while you sit back and try to look like a cool non-partisan. I'll see ya in the camp. Maybe we can get assigned to the same barracks and go on the same work details and talk more about it.
    So there's no way it could be, "you cost the health care system more by partaking in an unhealthy lifestyle, so you should have to pay more"?

    Cancer these days has a higher survival rate, but at an extreme cost to the patient and the insurance companies / health care system.

    What's the difference between raising someone's health care rates when the person goes tanning compared to if they are taxed the extra ahead of time?

    If it were me I would rather pay the tax and not have to worry about my health care rates going up because I use the tanning salon.
    Last edited by Jucon; 03-27-10 at 10:02 PM.

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    Re: Is the New Tanning Tax Racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    On what grounds is it racist?

    Taxing tanning beds in my mind is just like increased taxes on cigarettes... these things are not necessities, and they can damage your health.

    I'm assuming tanning beds are already taxed, but I'm not sure an increase in taxing will do any good. The only thing it will do is bring in more tax revenue, and that doesn't go over well in my mind.Logically, this will ease the budget deficit.

    I'd be more in favor of tanning salons being required to have their customers read warnings on the dangers of tanning beds, just like they add warnings on cigarettes. Might not do a lot of good, but at least we'd be ensuring everyone knows the dangers... and people have a right to know these dangers. From there they can make up their own minds.
    Agree on the taxes - this tanning stuff is a "luxury", a foolish one at that.
    Strongly disagree on the warnings, people ignore them, and I do not blame them. We have far too many warnings and cautions, this must stop. Its a terrible waste of ink and paper.
    How this tax can be racist is beyond me.
    Last edited by earthworm; 03-28-10 at 11:44 AM.

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    Re: Is the New Tanning Tax Racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    It is along the lines of a cigarette tax or any other vice tax.
    In the future, people who tan will likely accrue tanning-related medical costs.
    It makes sense that they begin to help defray those costs now.
    Where do you draw the line, though? Is it the government's business to "punish" us for how we chose to live in these United States? Will people who live near the beach get a special tax on top of already high property taxes? They get sunburned, too.
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    Re: Is the New Tanning Tax Racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's not a luxury tax. It's a, "we wanna control your lifestyle because we're going to pick up the tab", tax. If the government is worried that a person's lifestyle will cost them more money in medical care expenses, then let's not work towards single payer healthcare. But, we know it ain't about that. Don't we? It's about, "if we can get away with this, we can get away with the other **** we wanna do".

    Your freedom is being taken away from you, while you sit back and try to look like a cool non-partisan. I'll see ya in the camp. Maybe we can get assigned to the same barracks and go on the same work details and talk more about it.
    If you say so....
    This stuff that you claim "freedoms being taken away"....makes no sense.
    Exactly, what freedoms?

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    Re: Is the New Tanning Tax Racist?

    Not racist, but an example of the "soft facism" of the nanny state.

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    Re: Is the New Tanning Tax Racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by StandUpChuck View Post
    Where do you draw the line, though? Is it the government's business to "punish" us for how we chose to live in these United States? Will people who live near the beach get a special tax on top of already high property taxes? They get sunburned, too. The smart ones know when to "come out of the rain" and excessive sun, the stupid ones do not.
    That they pay more tax than I....too damned bad...

    The line will be erased when people smarten up and do what is good for themselves , rather than living a gluttonous, stupid, sloppy, wasteful life ...which I kind of like, a little.....

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    Re: Is the New Tanning Tax Racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by StandUpChuck View Post
    Where do you draw the line, though? Is it the government's business to "punish" us for how we chose to live in these United States? Will people who live near the beach get a special tax on top of already high property taxes? They get sunburned, too.
    The line is drawn by our elected officials within the confines of the constitution, like it or not. Voice your opinion to your representatives, vote for those you agree with most on, or run for office... that's the best we can do as citizens.

    The punishment for getting sunburned on the beach is the sunburn itself. Tanning beds make it easier and more convenient to avoid the sunburn while taking in a high amount of harmful UV rays.

    Hopefully people would be intelligent enough to realize that too much sun is bad. Unfortunately those with leather skin from tanning didn't learn the harms of UV rays and have a higher chance of getting skin cancer. And if they don't want to pay higher health care costs, they need to pay some other way to pay their fair share.

    This is why I am in favor of cigarette taxes, even though I smoke. Unfortunately for me I will have to pay the higher taxes AND see my health care costs increase unless I quit. Now is that fair? I think so. I will do my part to lessen the burden on the health care system that I cause, and I'd hope others would feel the same way. Why should people have to pay higher premiums just because other people smoke cigarettes?

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    Re: Is the New Tanning Tax Racist?

    I basically hate any tax on any service since we are taxed enough on items wepurchase and real estatate and automobile ownership tx. Yest the question of it being racist is that it's about as discriminatory as a product which would be used for let's say skin lighteer or hair un-kinkener.
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