View Poll Results: A democratic Iraq means..........

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  • More people standing up against tyranny, like we're seeing in Iran

    8 33.33%
  • Democracy will not last, dictatorship will inevitably return

    9 37.50%
  • Democracy will take hold, but the results will not be favorable for the US

    3 12.50%
  • I'm a malodorous hippie who believes Dick Cheney and George Bush eat arab babies for fuel

    4 16.67%
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Thread: The Implications of a Democratic Iraq on the Middle East

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    The Implications of a Democratic Iraq on the Middle East

    Thousands of brave American Soldiers went to the mat to give the people of Iraq a say in how their own future.

    Despite endless whining and tantrum throwing from the left, President Bush showed what can be accomplished when grown-ups are in office. Iraq is proving to be a resounding success, despite outside interference by people like Ahmadinejad, who have so much invested in tyranny.

    So what does this mean for the future of the region?

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    Re: The Implications of a Democratic Iraq on the Middle East

    Maybe I'm one of the whining liberals, Mr very conservative Libs--ect-...
    But I believe that political ideologies(both "good" and "bad") cannot nor should not be forced on others.
    President Obama was right about this, we had no business in Vietnam and less in Iraq.
    When these, and all nations are ready for human rights and fair play in government, they will then accept it...and not before...

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    Re: The Implications of a Democratic Iraq on the Middle East

    I don't think their culture is in a place where a democracy can work and I don't think it is possible for them to be "civilized" by an outside force.

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    Re: The Implications of a Democratic Iraq on the Middle East

    A democratic Iraq is a pipe dream as it is in the rest of the Middle East except for maybe Israel. Three things going against democracy in Iraq :

    1. Arab Tribalism
    2. Islamic control of the government
    3. A mostly uneducated populace.

    No democracy can model its laws after a religious system which does not allow for dissension. Abrahamic faiths are incompatible with democracy.
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    Re: The Implications of a Democratic Iraq on the Middle East

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    A democratic Iraq is a pipe dream as it is in the rest of the Middle East except for maybe Israel. Three things going against democracy in Iraq :

    1. Arab Tribalism
    2. Islamic control of the government
    3. A mostly uneducated populace.

    No democracy can model its laws after a religious system which does not allow for dissension. Abrahamic faiths are incompatible with democracy.
    Do you mean all Abrahamic faiths? Because you just made an exception for Israel.

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    Re: The Implications of a Democratic Iraq on the Middle East

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Do you mean all Abrahamic faiths? Because you just made an exception for Israel.
    Israel is a state with Jews but not one which forces Judaism down the throats of its people. It is a sad fact that a lot of the policies of Israel are actually championed by what in America would be considered as 'secular' politicians.
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    Re: The Implications of a Democratic Iraq on the Middle East

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Israel is a state with Jews but not one which forces Judaism down the throats of its people. It is a sad fact that a lot of the policies of Israel are actually championed by what in America would be considered as 'secular' politicians.
    Ok. Thanks for the clarification.

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    Re: The Implications of a Democratic Iraq on the Middle East

    This poll is as rigged as the "democratic" elections in Iraq and Afghanistan, and both still require a US military occupation to prop them up.

    How about we remove the military occupation propping them up and then talk about what our trillions of dollars spent and thousands of lives sacrificed have wrought?
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    Re: The Implications of a Democratic Iraq on the Middle East

    lol, the typical spoiled, sheltered, and arrogant American responses I've come to expect.

    You people can't imagine living without the right to choose who governs you. You can't imagine swinging from a meathook for the offense of speaking against your government. You can't imagine seeing acid splashed in the faces of young girls for the offense of learning to read. It's ok, though. The Iraqi people understand the opportunity they now have, even if you don't. They proved it last month by risking life and limb to turn out in record numbers to pick their leaders.

    Of course, none of this stops you from going on your holier-than-thou diatribes about "forcing" ideologies on someone.

    Did it ever occur to you that this is the first time the Iraqi people have actually had a chance of not having something forced upon them?

    You say that democracy will not work in Iraq. Tell me this: Do people not deserve to have a say in their own governance, regardless of cultural or religious differences?

    Do you not realize the arrogance of your positions?
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    Re: The Implications of a Democratic Iraq on the Middle East

    A significant implication is that GWB will be seen positively as the liberator of Iraq, and his legacy cemented as such.

    This, the leftists cannot allow, and so will do whatever they think they can do to stop it.

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