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Thread: Education Is A Right?

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    Re: Education Is A Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    So we have the right to bear arms in formation of a militia (which I am not against), but not to arm ourselves with education?
    That's for the physical enforcement of rights and liberty. As I said, you'd have to make a damned good argument for me to buy into education being a right.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Education Is A Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    That's for the physical enforcement of rights and liberty. As I said, you'd have to make a damned good argument for me to buy into education being a right.
    I hate to say it, but there's no reason to. Libertarians never make more than single digit percentages of votes in any election.

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    Re: Education Is A Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I hate to say it, but there's no reason to. Libertarians never make more than single digit percentages of votes in any election.
    What does that have to do with the topic? Are rights determined then by how much of the vote Libertarians capture? Damn, people should start voting for us more often then so we can get more rights!
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Education Is A Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    What does that have to do with the topic? Are rights determined then by how much of the vote Libertarians capture? Damn, people should start voting for us more often then so we can get more rights!
    Essentially that's how it works. Rights are determined by the laws we make.

    We have made schooling compulsory and provided for it, so therefore its a right.

    Now if the question was "should education be a right" going into various philosophies might matter.
    Last edited by tacomancer; 03-26-10 at 06:46 PM.

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    Re: Education Is A Right?

    Election victories

    Libertarians have had mixed success in electing candidates at the state and local level. Following the 2002 elections, according to its site,[25] 599 Libertarians held elected or appointed local offices and appointed state offices. As of January 2010, 143 Libertarians Nationwide, hold elected office: 31 of them partisan offices, and 112 of them non-partisan offices[26]. Since the party's creation, twelve Libertarians have been elected to state legislatures, though none hold office currently. The most recent Libertarian candidate elected to a state legislatures was Steve Vaillancourt to the New Hampshire House of Representatives in 2000. Vaillancourt, a Democratic member of the House with libertarian leanings, had lost the Democratic primary for a seat in the New Hampshire Senate that year and accepted the Libertarian nomination so as to keep his House seat..[27]

    After the party's 21 electoral victories in November 2008, there are now 207 elected Libertarians serving in office across the United States [10]. In comparison, the Green Party had 48 electoral victories in 2008 [11], and 193 Greens currently serve in public office.

    Libertarian Party (United States) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    So it's not a lot, but it completely disproves your broad sweeping statement. Had to get more than single digit in an election to win a seat.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
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    Re: Education Is A Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Election victories

    Libertarians have had mixed success in electing candidates at the state and local level. Following the 2002 elections, according to its site,[25] 599 Libertarians held elected or appointed local offices and appointed state offices. As of January 2010, 143 Libertarians Nationwide, hold elected office: 31 of them partisan offices, and 112 of them non-partisan offices[26]. Since the party's creation, twelve Libertarians have been elected to state legislatures, though none hold office currently. The most recent Libertarian candidate elected to a state legislatures was Steve Vaillancourt to the New Hampshire House of Representatives in 2000. Vaillancourt, a Democratic member of the House with libertarian leanings, had lost the Democratic primary for a seat in the New Hampshire Senate that year and accepted the Libertarian nomination so as to keep his House seat..[27]

    After the party's 21 electoral victories in November 2008, there are now 207 elected Libertarians serving in office across the United States [10]. In comparison, the Green Party had 48 electoral victories in 2008 [11], and 193 Greens currently serve in public office.

    Libertarian Party (United States) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    So it's not a lot, but it completely disproves your broad sweeping statement. Had to get more than single digit in an election to win a seat.
    Sorry, I should have qualified, I was referring to national elections.

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    Re: Education Is A Right?

    A public education (elementary through high school) is a right of citizenship and or legal residency. Pretty much that simple.
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    Re: Education Is A Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    I think a basic education is a right and should remain compulsory. As in elementary school and junior high. Anything after that is a privilege.
    A compulsory right???????
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Education Is A Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Sorry, I should have qualified, I was referring to national elections.
    Awesome. So then stop reading all of my posts since according to you my opinion doesn't matter. Even though the question was asked as to whether or not it's a right, which would be an opinionated question. And the fact that this is an internet political board meant to exchange ideas and arguments from various political ideologies. We should in fact disallow anyone on this board who does not self-identify as a Republican or Democrat since everyone else doesn't matter. Stifle dissent, stifle opposition, stifle different political ideology.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
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    Re: Education Is A Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    A public education (elementary through high school) is a right of citizenship and or legal residency. Pretty much that simple.
    It's not a right, it's a responsibility of the parents of any child in our society.

    Geezzzzzzzzz. The next thing you know food is going to be a right….. You know, because if you don’t have food, how can you be expected to vote responsibly....
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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