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Thread: A Responsibility to Others?

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    Re: A Responsibility to Others?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    I've been thinking lately about the thoughts of several ultra-rich men. Andrew Carnegie, Bill Gates, John Rockefeller to a certain extent; they all did things to better the poor. I know there is a lot more to their stories, and how they accumulated such wealth, but the principle is still there.

    Do people who have greater power and wealth have a responsibility to others, in terms of a moral responsibility?

    I personally believe that the strong are supposed to protect the weak. Government itself is based on that proposition, assigning power to a few to protect the interests of the many weak.

    On a more personal level, I am one of the smarter students in my school. As such, I always help my peers when they have questions. very recently, a good friend got rejected from a college he wanted to go to, and I spent sometime trying to help him get over it, and figure out what to do.

    Anyone else have thoughts on this?
    Jesus did say that those to whom much is given, more is expected of...

    Luke 12:41-48 [41] Peter asked, "Lord, are you telling this parable to us, or to everyone?" [42] The Lord answered, "Who then is the faithful and wise manager, whom the master puts in charge of his servants to give them their food allowance at the proper time? [43] It will be good for that servant whom the master finds doing so when he returns. [44] I tell you the truth, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. [45] But suppose the servant says to himself, `My master is taking a long time in coming,' and he then begins to beat the menservants and maidservants and to eat and drink and get drunk. [46] The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the unbelievers. [47] "That servant who knows his master's will and does not get ready or does not do what his master wants will be beaten with many blows. [48] But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked.

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    Re: A Responsibility to Others?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    It's weird how, sometimes you and I are about as opposite as opposite can be, and other times, we agree 100%.
    You're a smart guy, I'm sure in time you'll come around on the issues we disagree on.

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    Re: A Responsibility to Others?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    But the "should" exists, does it not? ?
    Only because it's what you are taught.
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    Re: A Responsibility to Others?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    And if someone walked by the same bleeding person without helping, wouldn't you hold that person accountable if the person who was bleeding died?
    No, I would not. I might find him cold-hearted, but he would not be accountable in my eyes.
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    Re: A Responsibility to Others?

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    I have been hearing this week that some parts of the United States are worse places to live than Gaza

    Sounds to me like you have some serious problems.
    Yeah, they are called "inner city" areas, and they are rife with gang violence.
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    Re: A Responsibility to Others?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    No, I would not. I might find him cold-hearted, but he would not be accountable in my eyes.
    Does the expression "Duty to Rescue" mean anything to you?

    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duty_to_rescue]Duty to rescue - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

    "Cold-hearted" just doesn't cover it.
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    Re: A Responsibility to Others?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Does the expression "Duty to Rescue" mean anything to you?
    Sure it does. It has been ingrained in me since birth. That still doesn't mean that it's an imperative, except in that society has made it so, based on beliefs that good and bad exist.
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    Re: A Responsibility to Others?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    That still doesn't mean that it's an imperative, except in that society has made it so, based on beliefs that good and bad exist.
    And your problem with that is...?

    Whether your personal philosophy is based on Abrahamic religions, humanism, Buddhism, whatever, from where do you get the imperative NOT to act in assistance of another human being in mortal peril?

    I may sound disparaging (not sure how I could state this and not sound so) but I am genuinely interested in the basis of your belief.
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    Re: A Responsibility to Others?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Do people who have greater power and wealth have a responsibility to others, in terms of a moral responsibility?
    I believe so.
    That doesn't translate to support for the idea that this moraility should be forced upon them.

    I personally believe that the strong are supposed to protect the weak. Government itself is based on that proposition, assigning power to a few to protect the interests of the many weak.
    Um.... no.
    The basis for government is that it is there to protect our rights so that we can get on with the business of living our lives, exercising the freedoms we enjoy, to whatever end we may choose.

    On a more personal level, I am one of the smarter students in my school. As such, I always help my peers when they have questions.
    Should you be forced to do this - that it be required of you, regardless of you opinion on the matter, and that you be required to do it pro-bono?

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    Re: A Responsibility to Others?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    And your problem with that is...?

    Whether your personal philosophy is based on Abrahamic religions, humanism, Buddhism, whatever, from where do you get the imperative NOT to act in assistance of another human being in mortal peril?

    I may sound disparaging (not sure how I could state this and not sound so) but I am genuinely interested in the basis of your belief.
    Did I say I have a problem with it? I just see it for what it is. Conditioning. We need it as a society to keep everything from falling apart, but it's still belief-based.
    "God is the name by which I designate all things which cross my path violently and recklessly, all things which alter my plans and intentions, and change the course of my life, for better or for worse."
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