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Thread: A Responsibility to Others?

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    Re: A Responsibility to Others?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    You're just putting words in my mouth now, I never said anything about a government forcing someone to do anything. I'm talking about strictly in the private sector.
    BS, this is what all Democrat welfare, including this healthcare farce, is all about. Forcing Charity!!


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    Re: A Responsibility to Others?

    Yeah, the American thing to do is help only yourself, no help for anyone else!

    That's the real America, don't look out for your fellow man!




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    Re: A Responsibility to Others?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    So in your mind, moral responsibility is a myth. Wow...that is a really sad state.
    I don't think that's what she meant. I think she mean that moral responsibility it relative to the individual... which I agree with.
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    Re: A Responsibility to Others?

    The only responsibility I have to others is the one I choose for myself. I have no inherent "moral" responsibility, since there are no inherent "morals".

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    Re: A Responsibility to Others?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    The only responsibility I have to others is the one I choose for myself. I have no inherent "moral" responsibility, since there are no inherent "morals".
    It's weird how, sometimes you and I are about as opposite as opposite can be, and other times, we agree 100%.
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    Re: A Responsibility to Others?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post

    Do people who have greater power and wealth have a responsibility to others, in terms of a moral responsibility?

    They are not forced to by Government and would not be forced to by Government which is what some people seem to think you have been imagining.

    It certainly does not look good if people manage to make an enormous amount through the benefits of capitalism and then do not try to give some back.

    For that reason most people like to have a big list of charities they give to indicating that they are extremely charitable, though the student who said he gave a $ a week possibly is more.

    On another level of looking after the disadvantaged. It is necessary for societies to do this to some extent. Otherwise civil unrest will eventually break out, but....

    I have been hearing this week that some parts of the United States are worse places to live than Gaza

    Sounds to me like you have some serious problems.
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    Re: A Responsibility to Others?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    If something is only right or wrong because of a value system that we place on it than there is no true societal value system and everyone is at his/her whim to do their own thing.
    Precisely.

    Sorry..but there are some things that are inherently right or wrong.
    No, there aren't.

    True...there are others that are based on individual values, but its not as simplistic as you want to believe that it is.
    If you mean simplistic in that it's relative to the individual, then yes it is as simplistic as that.

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    Re: A Responsibility to Others?

    I look at it as doing the right thing because it is the right thing to do. Not because of religious or social pressure. Nor do I see why so many are against government programs that help out folks in a tight spot. People complain that government does not do anything that benefits the people and then complain about the programs that government has to benefit the people.

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    Re: A Responsibility to Others?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Absolutey. Rich/Poor whatever. We as a "higher" society have a responsibility to our fellow mankind. To each according to their needs....from each according to their abilities. We all have a duty to pay back to our communities, either by service or by monetary means.

    There is nothing more immoral than amassing great wealth and hording it when you could do good with it.

    Which is why the bible says "It is easier for a rich man to get through the eye of a needle than to enter the kingdom of God."

    If you have the means or the ability and do nothing to help others than the content of your character shines brightly.
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    Re: A Responsibility to Others?

    I get's up my b*mcr**k how much rich people like to be lauded for the charitable work. If you're so charitable, give a $1,000, don't go to a $1,000-a-plate charity dinners!

    The fact is the greatest givers are the poorest sections of society.

    Percentage-wise the Poor Give More to Charity than the Rich
    Poor give more generously than the rich | Society | Society Guardian

    There may be great philanthropists in the ranks of the hugely wealthy, but they are tiny minority, and don't we just hear all about them!

    Those that demonstrate their fundamental responsibility to their fellow human beings are those that do it without fuss, without show, without the eponymous foundation, and without appearing on the cover of TIME magazine.
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