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Thread: A Responsibility to Others?

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    Re: A Responsibility to Others?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    No, it's a figment of your individual belief system.
    If someone was bleeding on a street, would you just pass by without a word to him/her?

    As I'm sure your answer to the previous question is a no, you would help the person, maybe you are arguing that the context for being a good person cannot be overbroad.
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    Re: A Responsibility to Others?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Okay, you just conceeded the idea of a good samaritan, and that one should at the very least attempt to be one. But why can this not be more broadly applied? I've always been taught that if you can help someone, you should help that person. Given certain chances where you really cannot help someone, shouldn't people do more to help?
    Because your formula means government forces charity and never encourages people to be resourceful and take responsibility for their own lives.


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    Re: A Responsibility to Others?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    If someone was bleeding on a street, would you just pass by without a word to him/her?
    I wouldn't just pass by, but it's my responsibility because I take it on as my responsibility, not because I "should" as judged in the eyes of others.
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    Re: A Responsibility to Others?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    No, it's a figment of your individual belief system.

    So in your mind, moral responsibility is a myth. Wow...that is a really sad state.
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    Re: A Responsibility to Others?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    So in your mind, moral responsibility is a myth. Wow...that is a really sad state.
    Maybe sad to you, but pretty obvious to me.

    Morals are based on personal beliefs and extended by way of social acceptance. Their validity is based in nothing other than belief. In reality, morality is a human concept and cannot be proven to be right or wrong. We believe things are right and wrong, but it's still just belief.
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    Re: A Responsibility to Others?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Maybe sad to you, but pretty obvious to me.

    Morals are based on personal beliefs and extended by way of social acceptance. Their validity is based in nothing other than belief. In reality, morality is a human concept and cannot be proven to be right or wrong. We believe things are right and wrong, but it's still just belief.

    It is sad. If something is only right or wrong because of a value system that we place on it than there is no true societal value system and everyone is at his/her whim to do their own thing.
    Sorry..but there are some things that are inherently right or wrong. True...there are others that are based on individual values, but its not as simplistic as you want to believe that it is.
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    Re: A Responsibility to Others?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bassman View Post
    Because your formula means government forces charity and never encourages people to be resourceful and take responsibility for their own lives.
    You're just putting words in my mouth now, I never said anything about a government forcing someone to do anything. I'm talking about strictly in the private sector.
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    Re: A Responsibility to Others?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    You're just putting words in my mouth now, I never said anything about a government forcing someone to do anything. I'm talking about strictly in the private sector.
    Bassman does that with everyone......
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    Re: A Responsibility to Others?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I wouldn't just pass by, but it's my responsibility because I take it on as my responsibility, not because I "should" as judged in the eyes of others.
    But the "should" exists, does it not? And if someone walked by the same bleeding person without helping, wouldn't you hold that person accountable if the person who was bleeding died?
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    Re: A Responsibility to Others?

    This is an interesting question. I know for me personally I give money to the homeless all the time. Granted it tends to be at most a dollar or two since I am in college and I don't really have a lot of money. But I do find myself giving more when it is colder in a hope they can get out of the weather for a while. Hell, I remember during this one pretty bad snowstorm I gave a homeless man a 20 so he could just go somewhere and warm up for a while.

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