View Poll Results: I support business refusal to do business with:

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  • Black People

    19 40.43%
  • Christians

    18 38.30%
  • Women

    18 38.30%
  • Gay people

    20 42.55%
  • Old People (65 and older)

    16 34.04%
  • Handicapped people (don't want to build ramps, etc)

    17 36.17%
  • Red headed people

    16 34.04%
  • None of the above

    29 61.70%
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    Re: Its ok for a business owner to refuse to do business with...

    I seem to be stuck somewhere in the middle here...

    I see merit in the idea of allowing a business owner to refuse any and all of these, if only to reveal that owner to boycotting.
    As well as my libertarian tendencies rearing their heads again...

    Then again, they wouldn't be boycotted in some areas of the world...

    Additionally, I can't quite get behind the thought of allowing ANY discrimination...

    It just flies against much of what I believe in.

    So, my libertarian tendencies pull me towards maximum…liberty.

    And my anti-discrimination feelings pull me the other way.

    If only you could trust the population to police itself regarding discrimination.

    Sadly, history seems to indicate otherwise.
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    Re: Its ok for a business owner to refuse to do business with...

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Yes....I'm speaking on a moral level not a legal level.
    It's morally repugnant, but forcing people by law to do something with their property because of a business license isn't the perfect solution to that.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Its ok for a business owner to refuse to do business with...

    Morally speaking, no it isn't okay. It doesn't make sense, either -- why would a business turn away customers?

    I think a business should have every legal right to do it, though. I don't think it is morally right to force a business to serve people it does not wish to serve.

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    Re: Its ok for a business owner to refuse to do business with...

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The thread on the B&B has me intrigued. I'm curious how people would feel about other scenarios.

    Please answer the following scenarios:

    It would be OK for a business to refuse to do business with:
    All of the above plus politicians,trial lawyers and anyone else.
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    Re: Its ok for a business owner to refuse to do business with...

    Sounds to me like a bait thread.
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    Re: Its ok for a business owner to refuse to do business with...

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    All of the above plus politicians,trial lawyers and anyone else.
    See, I would probably do MORE business with someone who told politicians and lawyers that they weren't welcome. "You voted me a paycut, no food for you", "YOU sued me into bankruptcy leave now".
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Its ok for a business owner to refuse to do business with...

    I said none of the above.

    If a business choses to discriminate, that's fine, its wrong in many people's opinions, but if they want to do it, its really their funeral. They should know the consequences of their actions.

    But its still wrong.
    Last edited by Cilogy; 03-24-10 at 11:55 PM.


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    Re: Its ok for a business owner to refuse to do business with...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    I said none of the above.

    If a business choses to discriminate, that's fine, its wrong in many people's opinions, but if they want to do it, its really their funeral. They should know the consequences of their actions.
    Bingo, bigotry is not the best idea when you run a business, the p.r. will kill you.
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    Re: Its ok for a business owner to refuse to do business with...

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Sounds to me like a bait thread.
    I'm seriously NOT trying to make this a bait thread. I am genuninely interested in knowing whether people feel that private businesses should be allowed to discriminate or not. I was surprized so many people in the B&B thread supported private business discrimination against gays. I'm curious if it is a gay issue or whether the right to discriminate extends to those people beyond gays.
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    Re: Its ok for a business owner to refuse to do business with...

    Legally, I would say yes to all of those (except none of the above obviously).

    Morally, I would choose all of the above.

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