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    Re: Its ok for a business owner to refuse to do business with...

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Couldn't tell you about rewarding, but you can sue for just about anything. I have seen some stupid suits based on emotional crap like that, but don't know the outcome.
    Exactly!

    You can sue for just about anything and i do not believe this type of legislation limits in any way a persons ability to run their business.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Its ok for a business owner to refuse to do business with...

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Exactly!

    You can sue for just about anything and i do not believe this type of legislation limits in any way a persons ability to run their business.
    Unless you are tied up in court constantly due to too many laws to comply with.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Its ok for a business owner to refuse to do business with...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The same can apply to you since the only counter you had to arguments of property rights is "things aren't that black and white". That's it. It's not an argument, it's a deflection. So the point is, we sit here with people having made actual argument for property rights and your response was "it's not black and white". That's it. So before you start throwing stones at us claiming that we need a better argument, you should maybe look at your own little glass house you've constructed out of deflection arguments and refusal to engage.


    I have discussed firm theory, externalities, human psyche, legality, etc.... As i said previously, LMR has had no problem bringing forth a quality argument that is both engaging and stemming from the premise of individual property rights. Your desire to go another direction is noted.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Its ok for a business owner to refuse to do business with...

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Unless you are tied up in court constantly due to too many laws to comply with.
    In the US, such a scenario is not an issue. While i have no doubt that there are some firms who are constantly wrapped up in litigation, much of that is the product of expansion and is a natural market phenomenon.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Its ok for a business owner to refuse to do business with...

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    In the US, such a scenario is not an issue. While i have no doubt that there are some firms who are constantly wrapped up in litigation, much of that is the product of expansion and is a natural market phenomenon.
    So imagine the growth without that hinderance.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Its ok for a business owner to refuse to do business with...

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post


    I have discussed firm theory, externalities, human psyche, legality, etc.... As i said previously, LMR has had no problem bringing forth a quality argument that is both engaging and stemming from the premise of individual property rights. Your desire to go another direction is noted.
    It's not my desire, it's yours. You've discussed none of those things in reference to our posts. To our posts, you've merely only said "it's not black and white", and then got pissy when we started to reiterate our argument and then started in with attacks. You're reaping what you sowed.
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    Re: Its ok for a business owner to refuse to do business with...

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    So imagine the growth without that hinderance.
    Making it harder to sue for just about anything? I most certainly can agree with that.

    FWIW, growth is primarily a function of both technological advance and population.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Its ok for a business owner to refuse to do business with...

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Making it harder to sue for just about anything? I most certainly can agree with that.

    FWIW, growth is primarily a function of both technological advance and population.
    That's half of it IMO, growth also requires the ability to facilitate the increasing demands of a growing population along with the ingenuity to expand upon advances, the more quickly and efficiently those two factors can be facilitated, the faster all factors can combine to form a growth spurt, when there are too many hindurances it creates a bottle neck and chokes off the market.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

    LMR

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    Re: Its ok for a business owner to refuse to do business with...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It's not my desire, it's yours. You've discussed none of those things in reference to our posts. To our posts, you've merely only said "it's not black and white", and then got pissy when we started to reiterate our argument and then started in with attacks. You're reaping what you sowed.
    Attack? I said you claimed me me me mine mine mine. That is not an attack, only pointing out the reality of the situation. We have nothing to discuss because you view this discussion to be only in regards to property rights.

    The fact that the firms objective is maximum profits has zero meaning to you.

    There is really nothing to discuss with you because you have made your point and argument clear: Its all or nothing.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Its ok for a business owner to refuse to do business with...

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    That's half of it IMO, growth also requires the ability to facilitate the increasing demands of a growing population along with the ingenuity to expand upon advances, the more quickly and efficiently those two factors can be facilitated, the faster all factors can combine to form a growth spurt, when there are too many hindurances it creates a bottle neck and chokes off the market.
    In the short run, yes. In the long run markets rule. Which is why we have witnessed both Korean and Japanese convergence even though they have far more barriers to entry in regards to the entrepreneurial spirit.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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