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Thread: What do you think of a Third Party in the United States?

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    What do you think of a Third Party in the United States?

    I think we do need a strong Third Party because it's something that'll keep the two major parties we have now honest.
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    Re: What do you think of a Third Party in the United States?

    Not American but I think the US does need a third strong party.

    Two of the parties can be relatively mainstream, and the one somewhat more on the fringe
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    Re: What do you think of a Third Party in the United States?

    I think we need a strong third, fourth, fifth, and sixth party in the U.S. Unfortunately, nothing is ever going to change until we change our voting system. Plurality voting systems naturally tend to a two-party system (Duverger's Law). Change our system to something like Instant Run-off Voting and the chances for other parties to get elected increase dramatically.

    But, then again, there's another problem with our government system. Only one politician can be elected to one congressional district, despite both Democrats, Republicans, and any other third-party members living there. So if a Green congressman gets elected he'll also have to represent the Republicans and Democrats who are constituents in his district. This is the problem with having single-member districts instead of a national proportional system.

    Then again, I rather like districts since it allows local areas to have a say in national politics. It keeps national politics from being controlled by urban areas.

    However, I think instituting IRV would be a great step forward in the right direction.

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    Re: What do you think of a Third Party in the United States?

    people should just vote for what they believe if they did there would not be 2 major parties but lots more parties.
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    Re: What do you think of a Third Party in the United States?

    I'd like to see more political parties being serious contenders for office in the US, but until our election system is changed there's no hope of it actually happening.
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    Re: What do you think of a Third Party in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by mikhail View Post
    people should just vote for what they believe if they did there would not be 2 major parties but lots more parties.
    With a plurality voting system, that is whoever gets the most votes wins 100% of the office, a two-party system naturally emerges. This is called Duverger's Law and this happens to prevent spoilers. Basically, the reason why the Democrats take on Green Party issues and why the Republicans take on Libertarian Party issues is so that the Greens and Libertarians won't split the ticket and cause the other major party to win.

    That's why we need a different voting system than the one we do now. Change the voting system and you change the party system.

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    Re: What do you think of a Third Party in the United States?

    Canada and the UK have more three or more main political parties (with two major ones each)

    We have a voting system similar to the US ( the person with the most votes wins the district or seat)

    There really is no reason for only two political parties in the US rather then three.

    Other then the fact Americans dont like losing. People in the UK will vote for the Liberal Democrats despite that party having no chance of forming the government. The same occurs in Canada with the New Democrats, they will never likely form the government, but the do get some seats in government
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    Re: What do you think of a Third Party in the United States?

    I don't think we need a third party, with our current laws and the way congress is set up, having a third party wouldn't prevent anything from being done. A third party would only hurt the other two depending on what their stances were. What kind of ideology do you think this party should be?

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    Re: What do you think of a Third Party in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    With a plurality voting system, that is whoever gets the most votes wins 100% of the office, a two-party system naturally emerges. This is called Duverger's Law and this happens to prevent spoilers. Basically, the reason why the Democrats take on Green Party issues and why the Republicans take on Libertarian Party issues is so that the Greens and Libertarians won't split the ticket and cause the other major party to win.

    That's why we need a different voting system than the one we do now. Change the voting system and you change the party system.
    I think its individual people who need to change.For example people who voted for nader in 2000 where made to feel as though they had elected bush when then actually just voted for someone closer to their ideals.Same with Ross Perot.I do realise the system has been manipulated to stop another Perot but thats why the people need to refuse the mandate that is giving to the 2 major parties.
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    Re: What do you think of a Third Party in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I don't think we need a third party, with our current laws and the way congress is set up, having a third party wouldn't prevent anything from being done. A third party would only hurt the other two depending on what their stances were. What kind of ideology do you think this party should be?
    Well, I think we should have multiple parties. Personally, I'd prefer it if officials from the Libertarian, Green, Modern Whig, and a Modern Progressive parties were able to be elected. That way to get anything done, a coalition government would have to be formed. That would lead to a lot more moderation in the passage of legislation. Which I prefer.

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