View Poll Results: Should B&B owners be allowed to refuse gay couples?

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  • Yes, they should be allowed to refuse anyone for any reason

    65 59.63%
  • The should be allowed to refuse if it violates their religious beliefs

    3 2.75%
  • They should be fined for discriminating against gays

    16 14.68%
  • They should lose their B&B license for discriminating against gays

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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    I think they have a right to refuse them service if they don't want homosexuals there for religious reasons. However, they shouldn't be allowed to discriminate in all cases. They shouldn't be allowed to deny blacks or whites or anyone else service based on race.

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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

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    Yup!!!!! Although if it was 2 hot lesbians I really am NOT in his corner on this one
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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    A private business should be allowed to refuse you if they dont like your shoes IMO.I dont think we have to go into religous rights.
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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    In an ideal world where the government was actually limited to the powers delegated to it in the constitution, an owner of a business should have the absolute right to serve or not serve whom he pleases. If someone is a bigot and that causes him to go out of business so be it. ON the other hand, if he increases his business by banning homosexuals, then that would be a clearly sound reason to engage in such exclusion.

    No how many times I read the federal constitution and all the documents generated by those who ratified it, I cannot find any legitimate power for the federal government to tell a hotel owner that he has to serve this or that group



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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    For the most part, I feel like a private business should be allowed to refuse service to anyone for any reason. However, there are a couple situations I can see which are a bit more murky.

    Something like a bed and breakfast should probably have to tell you if they have a rule against gays or something when you book the room. You shouldn't be allowed to tell someone 'yes, we'll serve you' and then later go back on your word and turn them away. Especially if you're running a place like a bed and breakfast where someone may be a long way from home and needs a place to sleep that night. So in this case, yes, the bed and breakfast should have the right to turn them away, but they should have to do it when the room is booked. Once it's booked I feel like they should have to honor that.

    The only other case where I can see it being an issue is if the business provides a vital service, and it's the only one in the area. Let's say you lived in a tiny town in the middle of nowhere with only 1 grocery store. If that store refused to let you shop there, you'd be in some serious trouble.
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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Depends on whether or not the B&B is a legal one or not. Meaning they applied for and received the business license, whether it has been incorporated

    In Canada they would not be allowed to refuse gay couples on religous grounds as sexual orientation is protected in the Can Charter of Rights. Just as Jews or Blacks would be.

    Now as for the rights of the business owner, they have rights, but their business does not. As individuals they do not have to accept homosexuals staying in their home, but the minute they turned it into a business open to the public, they lost that right
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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I think they have a right to refuse them service if they don't want homosexuals there for religious reasons. However, they shouldn't be allowed to discriminate in all cases. They shouldn't be allowed to deny blacks or whites or anyone else service based on race.
    Bigotry is not acceptable on racist grounds but is on religious ones? That may be true in America, but in the UK it is illegal to discriminate against anyone on the basis of their race creed age, gender, or sexual orientation. In this case,

    " The Sexual Orientation Regulations 2007 make it unlawful for a person providing goods, facilities or services to members of the public to directly or indirectly discriminate (or victimise) on the grounds of sexual orientation in the provision or non-provision of such goods, facilities or services, or the terms upon which they are offered. This is regardless of whether or not the goods, facilities or services are provided free of charge. This covers a wide range of public and private services, including important areas such as healthcare, insurance, and the provision of hotel or holiday accommodation. .. "
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