View Poll Results: Should B&B owners be allowed to refuse gay couples?

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  • Yes, they should be allowed to refuse anyone for any reason

    65 59.63%
  • The should be allowed to refuse if it violates their religious beliefs

    3 2.75%
  • They should be fined for discriminating against gays

    16 14.68%
  • They should lose their B&B license for discriminating against gays

    19 17.43%
  • Other, please explain

    6 5.50%
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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Then again the question of needing a license from the state or county comes into play.
    Yes, that's the key.

    If you want to set up a private club that discriminates, you have every right to do so.

    However, if you set up a business that is open to the public, then you have to abide by the laws. You can't decide to serve everyone except gays or except Irish or except the handicapped or whatever.

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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    I voted 'other'. This is certainly a dilemma to me. On the one hand, they are offering a service to the public, on the other they are doing so out of their home, which to my mind is different than a hotel or motel.

    At the very least, they should have the decency to stipulate ahead of time what their rules are. It was pretty tacky to turn the couple away at the last minute.

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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Their business, their rules.
    So if they refused to allow blacks that would be ok with you?

    Or if they said no inter-racial couples?

    Why stop at just B&B's...is it ok if Safeway says "No blacks allowed"...their business their rules? Right?
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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    So if they refused to allow blacks that would be ok with you?

    Or if they said no inter-racial couples?

    Why stop at just B&B's...is it ok if Safeway says "No blacks allowed"...their business their rules? Right?
    You are correct. Private business is private business.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    So if they refused to allow blacks that would be ok with you?

    Or if they said no inter-racial couples?

    Why stop at just B&B's...is it ok if Safeway says "No blacks allowed"...their business their rules? Right?
    People have already addressed this, you may or may not like the answer, but read back.
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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    It is private property and it does not fall into the "need" category like a super market or gas station. So they can refuse service for any reason.

    Even though I agree they should be able to. If they have a business license from the state to operate, they may not be able to according to the license.
    So you would be ok with a movie theater saying blacks are only allowed to sit in the balcony?
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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You are correct. Private business is private business.
    That's absurd and the reason why the civil rights laws came about.
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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    That's absurd and the reason why the civil rights laws came about.
    It's not absurd. If someone owns their business, they own their business. They can set the rules so long as you don't infringe upon the rights of others. Like it or not, you don't have the right to be served at a business.
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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It's not absurd. If someone owns their business, they own their business. They can set the rules so long as you don't infringe upon the rights of others. Like it or not, you don't have the right to be served at a business.
    They are infringing on the rights of others. Sorry...but if you are going to do business in the US you aren't free to simply disregard anti-discrimination laws. If you don't like it, take your business to a country where discrimination is accepted.
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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    So you would be ok with a movie theater saying blacks are only allowed to sit in the balcony?
    They have a license from the state or county. Because of this they have to abide by that county or states laws concerning discrimination.

    In this case it is a private home and no license is required. No I have no problem with it. It is their private property, they can bar whoever they wish.

    If a white person wanted to come into my home to buy something and I said sorry no whites allowed. Nothing he can do about it. It is my property, I own.
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