View Poll Results: Should B&B owners be allowed to refuse gay couples?

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  • Yes, they should be allowed to refuse anyone for any reason

    65 59.63%
  • The should be allowed to refuse if it violates their religious beliefs

    3 2.75%
  • They should be fined for discriminating against gays

    16 14.68%
  • They should lose their B&B license for discriminating against gays

    19 17.43%
  • Other, please explain

    6 5.50%
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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    That said, I was under the impression that it is NOT illegal in the US to discriminate all you want IF your business receives NO public funds (as in, government grants, etc.).
    Bad for business, yes, but not illegal.

    Perhaps someone with the knowledge can correct me, if I am incorrect in this.
    You are partially right; it is illegal to discriminate UNLESS you are a private organization completely, meaning not open to the public but only open to members who meet some requirement (such as a church group or the KKK or the Italian-American Opera Society or something -- after all, the 1st amendment also protects Freedom of Association).

    Simply because you do not receive public funds does not make you a private organization; however receiving funds means you definitely are not.

    Still, in most of America, it is still legal to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation. That won't last too much longer, though.

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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    There's a big difference between targeting a business at a particular market and discriminating against law-abiding, prospective customers.

    Of course you know that the case this thread is discussing is not subject to US, but to UK law. There it IS an offence to discriminate on grounds of sexual orientation. That's a law that protects heterosexuals who may wish to stay in a gay-run BnB too. I've stayed in gay-run BnBs in Blackpool and Brighton where straight guests were welcomed, actually made rather a fuss of.
    My bad. I thought it was a US matter.

    But....


    In the UK, how can even they tell if they are gay or not?

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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    My bad. I thought it was a US matter.

    But....


    In the UK, how can even they tell if they are gay or not?
    They have American passports

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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    My bad. I thought it was a US matter.

    But....


    In the UK, how can even they tell if they are gay or not?
    Good point. British gays are KICK ASS! That's also a particular sexual practice that I DON'T want to go into here!
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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Good point. British gays are KICK ASS! That's also a particular sexual practice that I DON'T want to go into here!
    Is that something a sheep told you



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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Is that something a sheep told you
    That's not a sheep, that's the woman I love!
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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    That's not a sheep, that's the woman I love!
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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I for one don't observe the political topics under the light of identity groups.

    I suggest you try alternative ways of viewing the world.
    That's nice. The law in most states does.


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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    This is in England where a Christian B&B owner refused a homosexual couple accommodation. Should this be allowed or not? For those of you who haven't visited the UK, B&Bs are much more common over there and American style motels are rare. Many, many homeowners supplement their incomes by operating B&Bs in their homes.

    Should they be forced to take in gay couples if it is against their religious beliefs?

    Gay couple turned away from B&B by Christian owners | World news | The Guardian
    I'm not sure on what basis you would deny the owner his right to exclude people from his property unless, of course, you reject the notion of private property altogether, in which case I would ask you to lend me your house, car, and wallet.

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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by Gander View Post
    I'm not sure on what basis you would deny the owner his right to exclude people from his property unless, of course, you reject the notion of private property altogether, in which case I would ask you to lend me your house, car, and wallet.
    1. The owner of the property DOES NOT have the right to discriminate based on sexual orientation.

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