View Poll Results: Should B&B owners be allowed to refuse gay couples?

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  • Yes, they should be allowed to refuse anyone for any reason

    65 59.63%
  • The should be allowed to refuse if it violates their religious beliefs

    3 2.75%
  • They should be fined for discriminating against gays

    16 14.68%
  • They should lose their B&B license for discriminating against gays

    19 17.43%
  • Other, please explain

    6 5.50%
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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    If its private property the owner has that right.
    WRONG.

    Not in England and not in the USA.

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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    WRONG.
    Do you start all your posts this way?

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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by emdash View Post
    Do you start all your posts this way?

    LOL.

    No. When I do it's usually a device to help me vent my frustrations in one word. That way I can avoid incurring the wrath of the mods.


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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Key here is that this is a private home and while it makes me sad? They should be able to do whatever they want. Again: private home.

    Most B&B's are private and it is not like they are some kind of hotel chain.
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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Key here is that this is a private home and while it makes me sad? They should be able to do whatever they want. Again: private home.

    Most B&B's are private and it is not like they are some kind of hotel chain.
    This may be a private home but it is also being used to run a business. The law is clear that they cannot behave in business with the same discrimination that they may behave in their private life. They may not discriminate against anyone in providing goods and services. A BnB ceases to be a private home when they start charging people to stay there.
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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    This may be a private home but it is also being used to run a business. The law is clear that they cannot behave in business with the same discrimination that they may behave in their private life. They may not discriminate against anyone in providing goods and services. A BnB ceases to be a private home when they start charging people to stay there.
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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Thanks.. Guess then they are WRONG!
    Yes, they are. Here's the legal position in the UK...

    "The Sexual Orientation Regulations 2007 make it unlawful for a person providing goods, facilities or services to members of the public to directly or indirectly discriminate (or victimise) on the grounds of sexual orientation in the provision or non-provision of such goods, facilities or services, or the terms upon which they are offered. This is regardless of whether or not the goods, facilities or services are provided free of charge. This covers a wide range of public and private services, including important areas such as healthcare, insurance, and the provision of hotel or holiday accommodation."

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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Key here is that this is a private home and while it makes me sad? They should be able to do whatever they want. Again: private home.

    Most B&B's are private and it is not like they are some kind of hotel chain.
    It stops being a private home when you open it up to the public. Why is that hard to understand?

    Wal-Mart is a private business; can they do that?

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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    ...only if property rights exist. So the answer is no.
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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    This is in England where a Christian B&B owner refused a homosexual couple accommodation. Should this be allowed or not? For those of you who haven't visited the UK, B&Bs are much more common over there and American style motels are rare. Many, many homeowners supplement their incomes by operating B&Bs in their homes.

    Should they be forced to take in gay couples if it is against their religious beliefs?

    Gay couple turned away from B&B by Christian owners | World news | The Guardian
    I'm not sure.
    I don't think they'd be within their rights to turn away a mixed race or minority couple, so I'm not sure they're within their rights here.
    I understand they own a private business, but it's also one which purports to be open to the general public, and then insults prospective patrons in a way that is no doubt hurtful and belittling.

    I would imagine a US court would find them within their rights to do so; I would also imagine their business will not prosper; a B&B can hardly risk offending the gay community, can it? I would think gays would account for a great deal of its business.

    On the other hand, it sounds like "Bed and Breakfast" means something totally different in the UK than it does here.

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