View Poll Results: Should B&B owners be allowed to refuse gay couples?

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  • Yes, they should be allowed to refuse anyone for any reason

    65 59.63%
  • The should be allowed to refuse if it violates their religious beliefs

    3 2.75%
  • They should be fined for discriminating against gays

    16 14.68%
  • They should lose their B&B license for discriminating against gays

    19 17.43%
  • Other, please explain

    6 5.50%
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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Well by "constitutional right" that would mean one of the rights outlined in the Constitution. Which being naked is not one of them. Regardless, I don't care if your standards are discriminatory; your store your rules. If you don't want Christians in your store, then you should be free to kick their zombie worshiping butts out of your store.
    Hey man, I'm Catholic and on your side. I even agree that a private business has the right to deny me service because of my beliefs, let's just not make it personal please. Just sayin'.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    Um, yes, that's my point.

    You libertarians seem to have some misguided view that if we just leave the powerful alone then they will be nice to us and no bad will ever happen.

    I think that a society should do something to prevent that from happening.
    Wrong, you advocate that government should do something, libertarians and constitutionalists assert that society should do something. And I know, you want to argue that the two are the same......they are not, government has stopped representing the people years ago, so far we have accepted it, but government is most certainly not the people, although through process it's still technically "of the people" sort of.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    Um, yes, that's my point.

    You libertarians seem to have some misguided view that if we just leave the powerful alone then they will be nice to us and no bad will ever happen.

    I think that a society should do something to prevent that from happening.
    Nothing in this thread is an affirmation of your claim here.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Hey man, I'm Catholic and on your side. I even agree that a private business has the right to deny me service because of my beliefs, let's just not make it personal please. Just sayin'.
    pssst....it's a joke.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    pssst....it's a joke.
    I get that, just wanted to make sure.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    that's rare.....
    I live in an unusual locality...

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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I get that, just wanted to make sure.
    All in all, I have zero problems with most religions (in fact, I was raised Catholic and the vast majority of my family is Catholic). So when I make smarmy comments like that, it's typically in jest. Less it's about Scientology, then it's probably serious. I hate Scientology.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I'm surprised at the number of people who feel that 'it's their business, their rules"

    It's not a religious-business such as a church. In a church I feel that, yes, their religion their rules - but not a business open to the public.

    If you open a business then you welcome everyone, barring your personal feelings about their lifestyle. The only thing permitted to be discriminated against are those who want to enter an establishment while presenting a danger or hazard - thus the no shoes, no shirt, no service signs . . . and so on. You cannot discriminate according to age, race, sexual orientation and all that jazz. . . because all those things are either A) someone's personal life and no one else's business or B) their unaltered state of being - like race or gender.

    Religion and moral things aren't up to the owner's discrimination.

    If someone has religious issues then they shouldn't be opening and operating a business in which they'll be privy to such things. . .
    I agree in general. The one thing in this scenario is that, if one is morally opposed to homosexual activity, and a gay couple is sleeping under your roof, there's a strong possibility that the activity that you view as immoral will take place.

    So, it's different that a restaurant or hair salon, where sexual activity isn't the expected norm.

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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    In YOUR opinion...and OBVIOUSLY you DISAGREE...

    But I DO agree...I cant STAND bigoted, biased, intolerant assholes that cant respect the rights, opinions, and positions of others with respect. That kind of stuff just bothers me to no end...
    Is this what you call a respectful and tolerant way of describing the fellow human beings with whom your differ?

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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Obsessing? How about every other thread gaying for the homosexuality of the gayness? Or the gay homosexual rights of gay for they gay and gay? Or every thread being twisted to gay gay for the gayness of momosxuality and gay??? Gay...for homosexuality...gay about obsession...sheesh. Gay!
    If you dislike these threads, is there any reason not to click on others that you might enjoy more?

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