View Poll Results: Should B&B owners be allowed to refuse gay couples?

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  • Yes, they should be allowed to refuse anyone for any reason

    65 59.63%
  • The should be allowed to refuse if it violates their religious beliefs

    3 2.75%
  • They should be fined for discriminating against gays

    16 14.68%
  • They should lose their B&B license for discriminating against gays

    19 17.43%
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Thread: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous grounds

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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    Exactly. What if this were a Black or interracial couple who were refused on those grounds?
    That would be illegal in the U.S. and the business, if the case was proven that that was the basis on which the customers were refused service, would be liable for fines and/or penalties.

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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    No, in that regard, a B&B is no different than a hotel.
    I disagree. In a B&B you interact with the proprietor's family, it is quite different than a more impersonal Hotel.

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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    Exactly. What if this were a Black or interracial couple who were refused on those grounds?
    I still wouldn't have a problem with it. Well, I would say that it's within their rights as owner of the private business to do so. It's not to say I would agree with the discrimination.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    I disagree. In a B&B you interact with the proprietor's family, it is quite different than a more impersonal Hotel.
    It's a business. If you don't want strangers in your home, don't open a B&B.

    For the record, I've stayed in a lot of B&B's and never interacted with anyone but the proprietor/spouse.

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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Well, I would say that it's within their rights as owner of the private business to do so. It's not to say I would agree with the discrimination.
    Legally, it is not within their rights as a business owner to discriminate on the basis of race, ethnicity, or gender.

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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Legally, it is not within their rights as a business owner to discriminate on the basis of race, ethnicity, or gender.
    That may be the context of the law, but I don't agree with it. Private property is private property and thus the property owners can decide. If they don't want to serve certain folk, I believe it is well within their rights as owner of the property to set that rule.
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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Their house, their rules. Retarded as they may be.

    I don't really see the point of legally forcing private business owners to do business with people they find distasteful anyway. I see it as a lose-lose situation for ALL parties.
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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    I don't really see the point of legally forcing private business owners to do business with people they find distasteful anyway. I see it as a lose-lose situation for ALL parties.
    In the U.S., these laws came about as a result of businesses refusing to serve black people prior to and during the civil rights movement. They aren't ideal, but they serve a purpose.

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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    In the U.S., these laws came about as a result of businesses refusing to serve black people prior to and during the civil rights movement. They aren't ideal, but they serve a purpose.
    Those places are easy to deal with. Don't go there. Lack of business will shut them down.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Should a Bed and Breakfast Owner be allowed to refuse Gay couples on religous gro

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Those places are easy to deal with. Don't go there. Lack of business will shut them down.
    We already deal with them legally. Remember the Denny's lawsuits?

    In general, I agree with you. Having said that, though, there are locations near where I live where you'd have entire towns that would essentially refuse to deal with people of color.

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