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    Re: What do you think about the health care bill that just passed?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Big problem with that public option. It wasn't restricted to the poor, the old and the sick. It was viral and threatened the private sector. Y'all ****ed up doing that.
    The public option was a public insurance option. You can't have insurance that is simply restricted to the poor and sick. Thats not insurance, its simply welfare. If that is the goal, just extend Medicaid to cover all the poor and the sick.
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    Re: What do you think about the health care bill that just passed?

    Quote Originally Posted by LowRevs View Post
    This bill is designed to progress to single payer government run healthcare which is his/their goal.
    That's right, hopefully we will eventually catch up with the rest of the industrialized world.
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    Re: What do you think about the health care bill that just passed?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    The public option was a public insurance option. You can't have insurance that is simply restricted to the poor and sick. Thats not insurance, its simply welfare. If that is the goal, just extend Medicaid to cover all the poor and the sick.
    You can't have a public insurance plan that competes with the private sector.

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    Re: What do you think about the health care bill that just passed?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    You can't have a public insurance plan that competes with the private sector.
    We have public colleges that compete with private colleges and provide an affordable alternative for millions.

    Same principle with the public option for health care.
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    Re: What do you think about the health care bill that just passed?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    You can't have a public insurance plan that competes with the private sector.
    Why?

    1. If the private sector is competitive, then why could it not compete on price and services with a public insurance plan. Especially considering that the public insurance plan would have been barred from subsidizing coverage for all but the sick and poor.

    2. If the public sector plan out competed the private sector plans, what would be the problem? It would out compete by offering a product that consumers wanted more, thus everyone is happy.
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    Re: What do you think about the health care bill that just passed?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Why?

    1. If the private sector is competitive, then why could it not compete on price and services with a public insurance plan. Especially considering that the public insurance plan would have been barred from subsidizing coverage for all but the sick and poor.

    2. If the public sector plan out competed the private sector plans, what would be the problem? It would out compete by offering a product that consumers wanted more, thus everyone is happy.
    It's viral. The public plan will always be able to do better than the private sector because it is backed by the unlimited purse of the government. It will suck members from the private plans into the public rolls and destroy the private sector. This is the whole point of the public option.

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    Re: What do you think about the health care bill that just passed?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    It's viral. The public plan will always be able to do better than the private sector because it is backed by the unlimited purse of the government. It will suck members from the private plans into the public rolls and destroy the private sector. This is the whole point of the public option.
    The point you are missing is that the proposals for it were legally barred from subsidizing insurance for anyone other than the poor.
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    Re: What do you think about the health care bill that just passed?

    What do you think about the health care legislation that just got passed?
    I think it's long overdue.
    A lot of people who have spent their lives uninsured will now have to play "catch up" and hope for the best.

    The next generation will be healthier, having had the benefit of access to routine medical care and screenings.

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    Re: What do you think about the health care bill that just passed?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    It's viral. The public plan will always be able to do better than the private sector because it is backed by the unlimited purse of the government. It will suck members from the private plans into the public rolls and destroy the private sector. This is the whole point of the public option.
    So if the government can do better than the private sector in this area, why not have a public option? Don't you want people to have better health coverage? I don't believe leaving millions without coverage or with poor coverage simply for the sake of the market and the private sector.

    Also, people who can afford it will always choose private insurance, that's what happens in other countries with public health care.

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    Re: What do you think about the health care bill that just passed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Progressive_Libertarian24 View Post
    Though I don't think this can be looked at as "real" reform, I do believe that they did the right thing in expanding coverage to 30 million more Americans and stopped insurance companies from denying those with pre-existing conditions. There's still a lot of work that needs to be done for us to have our current issues with the health care system solved once and for all. I still hope and believe we'll get there one day, But right now we are still far from that.
    I personally feel that this is great. Now all we need to do is to stop banks from denying loans to the 30 million lower income people so they can buy houses...

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