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    Re: Would you support a 'rape exception' to a government ban on elective abortions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    I know there are many reasons, Rivrrat. I have more than one family member who has been raped. One of them brutally.
    Sorry to hear that. That may help explain your beliefs about rape. It does not, however, explain why you think women shouldn't have a choice to abort for any other reason. You never quite explain that, even when asked repeatedly. You always have an excuse. I think I know why.

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    Cool Re: Would you support a 'rape exception' to a government ban on elective abortions?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Sorry to hear that. That may help explain your beliefs about rape. It does not, however, explain why you think women shouldn't have a choice to abort for any other reason. You never quite explain that, even when asked repeatedly. You always have an excuse. I think I know why.
    For as many times as you ask this, the answer will be the same.

    Understanding "consent" is the key to understanding the differences between a rape pregnancy and the (woman's rights to abort to guard her life) and a non rape pregnancy where she (consented to) the act and placed the child into harms way HERSELF, by way of her own actions.

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    Re: Would you support a 'rape exception' to a government ban on elective abortions?

    I've always felt that the issue of abortion is incredibly revealing of people's psychological states. The fact is that we have a limited degree of control over another person's thoughts, actions, behaviors, ethics.

    I used to be extremely anti-abortion, because to me, the ethics of killing an unborn child are clear. I could never do it, personally. I've been confronted with an unplanned pregnancy and chose to go through with it (though it ended in miscarriage at 12 weeks...which was terrible).

    But, having said that...why exactly would abortion foes WANT a woman to carry through with a pregnancy she does not want? What exactly is the benefit of forcing a woman to carry a child that she doesn't want to have? What is the benefit TO THAT CHILD? I've worked with quite a lot of kids who probably should never have been born. Some of them are still in prison and will be in prison for the rest of their lives.

    I sometimes wonder what our world would be like if abortion foes dedicated their time and energy to ensure that every child is a wanted child and that every child has a safe and secure home, good education, and hopeful future.

    It would be a very different place.

    I sometimes wonder what world they are trying to create inside the uterus of another person.

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    Re: Would you support a 'rape exception' to a government ban on elective abortions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    For as many times as you ask this, the answer will be the same.
    I noticed.

    Understanding "consent" is the key to understanding the differences between a rape pregnancy and the (woman's rights to abort to guard her life) and a non rape pregnancy where she (consented to) the act and placed the child into harms way HERSELF, by way of her own actions.
    If you can't answer the question, leave the thread. It's annoying.

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    Question Re: Would you support a 'rape exception' to a government ban on elective abortions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I've always felt that the issue of abortion is incredibly revealing of people's psychological states. The fact is that we have a limited degree of control over another person's thoughts, actions, behaviors, ethics.

    I used to be extremely anti-abortion, because to me, the ethics of killing an unborn child are clear. I could never do it, personally. I've been confronted with an unplanned pregnancy and chose to go through with it (though it ended in miscarriage at 12 weeks...which was terrible).

    But, having said that...why exactly would abortion foes WANT a woman to carry through with a pregnancy she does not want? What exactly is the benefit of forcing a woman to carry a child that she doesn't want to have? What is the benefit TO THAT CHILD? I've worked with quite a lot of kids who probably should never have been born. Some of them are still in prison and will be in prison for the rest of their lives.

    I sometimes wonder what our world would be like if abortion foes dedicated their time and energy to ensure that every child is a wanted child and that every child has a safe and secure home, good education, and hopeful future.

    It would be a very different place.

    I sometimes wonder what world they are trying to create inside the uterus of another person.
    How is this post not intended to derail this thread?

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    rolleyes Re: Would you support a 'rape exception' to a government ban on elective abortions?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    If you can't answer the question, leave the thread. It's annoying.
    If you can't comprehend or appreciate the answer,... maybe YOU should leave.

    I'm the OP.

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    Re: Would you support a 'rape exception' to a government ban on elective abortions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    How is this post not intended to derail this thread?
    How is your response to it productive? If my post doesn't interest you, please feel free to ignore it.

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    Re: Would you support a 'rape exception' to a government ban on elective abortions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    If you can't comprehend or appreciate the answer,... maybe YOU should leave.
    You have offered no answer. Even on the thread you asked me to start.

    No answer whatsoever to a very simply question.

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    Re: Would you support a 'rape exception' to a government ban on elective abortions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I've always felt that the issue of abortion is incredibly revealing of people's psychological states. The fact is that we have a limited degree of control over another person's thoughts, actions, behaviors, ethics.

    I used to be extremely anti-abortion, because to me, the ethics of killing an unborn child are clear. I could never do it, personally. I've been confronted with an unplanned pregnancy and chose to go through with it (though it ended in miscarriage at 12 weeks...which was terrible).

    But, having said that...why exactly would abortion foes WANT a woman to carry through with a pregnancy she does not want? What exactly is the benefit of forcing a woman to carry a child that she doesn't want to have? What is the benefit TO THAT CHILD? I've worked with quite a lot of kids who probably should never have been born. Some of them are still in prison and will be in prison for the rest of their lives.

    I sometimes wonder what our world would be like if abortion foes dedicated their time and energy to ensure that every child is a wanted child and that every child has a safe and secure home, good education, and hopeful future.

    It would be a very different place.

    I sometimes wonder what world they are trying to create inside the uterus of another person.
    This is exactly how I feel. Abortion is something that should be avoided whenever possible but I cannot support a ban on it until society does more for people after they come out of the womb. Right now if people don't do well in life, a good portion of the population ignores very real social problems and often blames the victim. Is that person any better off having been born?
    Last edited by tacomancer; 03-23-10 at 10:19 AM.

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    Cool Re: Would you support a 'rape exception' to a government ban on elective abortions?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    You have offered no answer. Even on the thread you asked me to start.

    No answer whatsoever to a very simply question.
    I have provided the answers. You just don't like the answer provided.

    That's your problem. Not mine.

    No-one else seems to have the problem comprehending my posts that you do.

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