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    Re: Would you support a 'rape exception' to a government ban on elective abortions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    In my opinion, the rapist is the one who placed the child into a situation where it could be killed to protect the woman.

    Therfore, the rapist is the one most responsible for it's death.
    Protect the woman from what?

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    Re: Would you support a 'rape exception' to a government ban on elective abortions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    It would be disgusting.

    TRUE.

    But to justify the killing of a child that resulted from a rape that could have been,.. possibly SHOULD have been reported much sooner would be pretty disgusting as well.
    WTF? You under the impression that a woman would know she was pregnant at the moment of conception?

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    Re: Would you support a 'rape exception' to a government ban on elective abortions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    Just like the title says.

    It's the year ???? and the anti-abortion movement has finally succeeded in banning elective abortions; making them illegal.

    The United States Supreme Court has ruled that 'personhood' begins at conception and that children while in the womb have a 14th Amendment right to their lives, due process and equal protection under the law.

    The Constitution remains as it is currently worded.

    Would you demand and support an exception to the ban for cases where a woman was raped and she becomes pregnant?
    The child did not rape the woman and going through the pregnancy is not going to end the mother's life.
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    Re: Would you support a 'rape exception' to a government ban on elective abortions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    You are making the (mistake?) assumption that the use of deadly force in an act of self defense is ONLY justified when you are cafing certain death.

    And that's not the reality of the laws regarding self defense.

    You can justifiably KILL a rapist,.. even if all he wants is a piece of ass.
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    Why is it a mistake? I think live is precious and valuable. The only justifiable reason someone may have for taking life from another would be to preserve life.
    You are missing the point.

    The reason that a woman (or even someone else, a bystander) can justifiably kill a would be rapist,... is NOT because he's ultimately GOING to kill the woman,....

    It's because they "reasonably believe" he's going to at the very least violate her rights,.. and "possibly" even kill her.

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    Re: Would you support a 'rape exception' to a government ban on elective abortions?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    WTF? You under the impression that a woman would know she was pregnant at the moment of conception?
    Objectively,

    I wasn't speaking as though it is the first person's account.

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    Re: Would you support a 'rape exception' to a government ban on elective abortions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    Objectively,

    I wasn't speaking as though it is the first person's account.
    I don't understand what you're saying.

    What you said here:

    That said,... do you not agree that the longer the woman waits to report the rape (talking weeks not minutes here),... the more she 'consents' to the conditions of her pregnancy?
    Implies that you believe she would somehow be aware she was pregnant immediately following the rape.

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    Arrow Re: Would you support a 'rape exception' to a government ban on elective abortions?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Wrong thread? Are you kidding? It's exactly the right thread.

    You just don't know. You have been asked this over and over on other threads already, and you never give a straight answer. I conclude that you simply don't have one to offer.
    My personal views are not germain to the poll question I posed.

    Neither are my personal views germain to your answer.

    If you are just trying to better understand MY perspective.

    Drop the chip off your shoulder and loose the confrontational attitude.
    Last edited by Chuz Life; 03-23-10 at 12:30 AM.

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    Question Re: Would you support a 'rape exception' to a government ban on elective abortions?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Protect the woman from what?
    A forced pregnancy that could cause her injury, serious financial and family problems,... possible loss of life?

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    Re: Would you support a 'rape exception' to a government ban on elective abortions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    A forced pregnancy that could cause her injury, serious financial and family problems,... possible loss of life?
    That's no different than any pregnancy.

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    Re: Would you support a 'rape exception' to a government ban on elective abortions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    A forced pregnancy that could cause her injury, serious financial and family problems,... possible loss of life?
    So none of that stuff is a problem if she enjoyed the sex?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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