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Will the health care bill pass?

Will the healthcare bill pass or fail if there is a vote tonight?


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I guess we should just close down all the schools then. Why should "big daddy gubbermint" provide public education to all? It's up to the individual to finance their children's education, isn't it? :roll:
It should be, that is why I support alternatives to the cesspool of public screwels that are nothing but Socialist Indoctrination centers anymore.

Why should "Big Daddy Gubbermint" build roads, or provide EMS, police, or fire fighting services? It's up to you. Buy a fire extinguisher if you're worried about your house burning down. Learn CPR. Buy a gun. Why should others risk their lives to protect your ass from fire, crime, injury and illness? If you need their services, it's probably because of your own stupidity anyway. Take a little responsibility. Jeesh.
Police, fire, etc. are constitutionally mandated under both national Security AND interstate Commerce, but then again you don't give a rat's ass about our founding documents, either.

Why should "Big Daddy Gubbermint" provide you with water and sewage disposal? Dig a well. Build an outhouse. Is disposing of your poop really the government's responsibility? Talk about wanting someone to wipe your ass for you. Pathetic. :?
See above!
 
1. Its not getting shot down in a legal battle.
2. Its actually a great boon to the Dems, as the issue is now behind us and they got something done, even with the Repubs throwing everything but the kitchen sink into their path. Its will be substantially out of the news cycle. Attention will now be on the replacement for Justice Stevens.
Ahh but it will be fresh in the minds of the voters once the Dip****ocrats get voted out in 2010!!
 
Ahh but it will be fresh in the minds of the voters once the Dip****ocrats get voted out in 2010!!

You over-estimate the attention span of the electorate and the media.

The Dems just saved themselves 1 or 2 senate seats and a handful of congressional seats by filing this as a done deal. It will soon be off the daily headlines. The patience of the people has already waned on this, so it won't be of much interest much longer. The Dems no longer look so inept (and in fact, I dare say given the obstacles, look a bit competent).... this will be replaced by another issue come November (7 months away.)

The Senate will remain with the Dems. The Repubs have a shot at the house, but that shot took a shot this evening.
 
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You over-estimate the attention span of the electorate and the media.

The Dems just saved themselves 1 or 2 senate seats and a handful of congressional seats by filing this as a done deal. It off the daily blogs, they no longer look so inept (and in fact, I dare say given the obstacles, look a bit competent).... this will be replaced by another issue come November (7 months away.)

The Senate will remain with the Dems. The Repubs have a shot at the house, but that shot took a shot this evening.
No, once the Traitorous Democrat plan effectively kills off the private sector economy, then I do not think voters will ever trust them again!
 
No, once the Traitorous Democrat plan effectively kills off the private sector economy, then I do not think voters will ever trust them again!

Dude, it's not g onna kill the private sector. That's a ludicrous statement. The private sector health care has so much money and so many employees its not gonna dissapear tommorow. And it never will, if there's money to be made, it will be.
 
Dude, it's not g onna kill the private sector. That's a ludicrous statement. The private sector health care has so much money and so many employees its not gonna dissapear tommorow. And it never will, if there's money to be made, it will be.
Bullsh!t!! That is the Left's wet dream, to kill off the entire private sector are replace it with more and more government welfare. Pathetic!
 
No, once the Traitorous Democrat plan effectively kills off the private sector economy, then I do not think voters will ever trust them again!

Hyperbole! How have they killed the private sector? Sorry, that is just over the top. Frankly, I the Repubs are not exactly friends of private enterprise, they are friends of big business.... Big business has not created jobs in the country in 30 years. Jobs are created by the entrepreneurs, which I think you will find are well represented in the ranks of both parties.

I don't think your party has actually been much of a friend to the "private sector" as you let on.

I am an entrepreneur and a Democrat. I find them to be much more my friend as a small business owner than the other guys.... though the both have their faults.
 
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Bullsh!t!! That is the Left's wet dream, to kill off the entire private sector are replace it with more and more government welfare. Pathetic!

If that's true, how come there is a healthy private school sector as well as the government school sector?
 
Hyperbole! How have they killed the private sector? Sorry, that is just over the top. Frankly, I the Repubs are not exactly friends of private enterprise, they are friends of big business.... Big business has not created jobs in the country in 30 years. Jobs are created by the entrepreneurs, which I think you will find are well represented in the ranks of both parties.

I don't think your party has actually been much of a friend to the "private sector" as you let on.

I am an entrepreneur and a Democrat. I find them to be much more my friend as a small business owner than the other guys.... though the both have their faults.
Then try to explain away your love for more and higher taxes?? Because that is all Democrats know how to do is tax a private sector economy out of existence (see also: New York State)
 
Then try to explain away your love for more and higher taxes?? Because that is all Democrats know how to do is tax a private sector economy out of existence (see also: New York State)

As a former New Yorker and SUNY/Albany grad, I can tell you that New York failed largely because its corrupt politics. Syracuse, Rochester, Buffalo and Binghamton are reeling from being industrial towns (where Fortune 500 companies had major factories) that have not re-tooled. Yes, they had union factories, so you could blame unions (and their greed is at fault to a degree), but even non-union factories have packed up and moved abroad. These are Fortune 5 policies: big business (those that do not create jobs) in motion.

The malaise of upstate New York is really the fault of less than progressive politicians that did not recognize change and embrace it. On the other hand, Albany and the Hudson Valley has had a thriving tech/entrepreneurial community and has done reasonably well, as has New York City. They work with the same tax structure.

The New York State Legislature has been one of the most dysfunctional in America. It has been for the thirty years I have paid attention to it. Its dysfunction is institutional rather than party specific. What is scary is that Washington has, over the past 15 years of so, become almost as dysfunctional as Albany.
 
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The private sector health care has so much money and so many employees its not gonna dissapear tommorow. And it never will, if there's money to be made, it will be.

It won't kill it tomorrow, but it will kill it over time. The private sector (insurance component) is not a huge money maker compared to other industries. Their profit margin often runs at around 3%. If the health care bill mandates that insurance companies get rid of the pre-existing conditions requirements, they will be losing lots of money on people who wait until they have a major illness, then run and buy insurance to cover it. The insured will have put very little into the pot, but will get a large benefit. This will bleed over into the other customers' requirements by way of higher costs. Eventually, insurance will be a losing endeavor, and many of them could conceivably end up defunct.
Basically, the government is not addressing the root causes of high insurance rates, and the costs will go up and up for everyone, especially the taxpayer who is picking up the tab for the poor.
 
Sadly I think it will pass. America's last hope is if we can shoot this down through a legal battle. This is great news for Republican's in November and 2012 though.

Maybe so. But last week's polls, indicate that, while most of the people polled are very unsatisfied with congress as a whole, the majority of those polled still prefer the next congress to be a democrat congress.

But, that was LAST week. Let's give it a month and check back.
 
No, once the Traitorous Democrat plan effectively kills off the private sector economy, then I do not think voters will ever trust them again!

And when the voters discover it didn't kill off the private sector economy and there are no death panels as forecast by the Republicans???
 
And when the voters discover it didn't kill off the private sector economy and there are no death panels as forecast by the Republicans???

I hope Debate Politics archives all the "dem's are gonna die next election" posts.

And also add that "Avatar will be a bust" thread too, just for posterity.

These know it all guys. :roll:

Is anyone enjoying this as much as I am?

Wah! Wah! Wah! :mrgreen:
 
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