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Thread: Who believes Obama will make this executive order

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    Who believes Obama will make this executive order

    Stupak, as many on the right have suggested all month long, has waived not based on any definitive change or measure but on a PROMISE (cause Obama or the Senate has never broken one of those) that something would be done. That promise, according to the NYT's:

    House Democrats clinched their victory on Sunday with an agreement on abortion. Democratic opponents of abortion rights, led by Representative Bart Stupak of Michigan, announced that they would vote for the legislation after Mr. Obama promised to issue an executive order “to ensure that federal funds are not used for abortion services” if the bill passed.
    So my question to everyone is simple. Will Obama actually make good on the promise of this executive order, yes or no?

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    Re: Who believes Obama will make this executive order

    No. Executive Orders in the past have never been held to any level of culpability, and essentially exist as an unenforcable written promise where the prez can break it unilaterally if he so chose to. He has no interest in the populace or even others in his own party. He did this because some of the most centrist Dems would not jump on board otherwise, but since the Congress is going to get completely flushed out in just over 18 months, there's no need to walk a fine line.

    Obama's essentially lit the match that Democratic Reps and Senators used to burn their bridges, with help from mein fuhrer Pelosi who resides comfortably in a deep blue state full of idiots and immigrants. Checks and balances be damned.

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    Re: Who believes Obama will make this executive order

    He probably will. There's no down side to doing it because, as noted above, it is not worth a squirt of piss.

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    Re: Who believes Obama will make this executive order

    I think he'll enact the executive order and then repeal it after some time passes. Stupak should have had the wording in the bill, that way it is set in stone. However, what is best is to just have the legislation shot down in the first place.

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    Re: Who believes Obama will make this executive order

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I think he'll enact the executive order and then repeal it after some time passes. Stupak should have had the wording in the bill, that way it is set in stone. However, what is best is to just have the legislation shot down in the first place.
    No. Obama will make the executive order and enforce it, and then leave it to a later president to revoke it.

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    Re: Who believes Obama will make this executive order

    About ten minutes ago one of the Republicans asked to have the text of the order inserted into the bill. As if any of the proponents was about to let something like that happen ...

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    Re: Who believes Obama will make this executive order

    Anybody care telling me which part of this bill funds abortion?
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    Re: Who believes Obama will make this executive order

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Anybody care telling me which part of this bill funds abortion?
    Irrelevant really to the discussion.

    Stupak and 11 others believed from their reading of the bill and their aides reading of the Bill that its ambiguity regarding language concerning abortion left open the possability for interpritation by congress or agencies to allow for federal money to go towards abortion services.

    To win their votes Obama promised to put forward an Executive Order closing the loophole THEY believe to be there.

    THIS THREAD's topic isn't rather or not the Health Care Bill allowed for federal money to go to abortion services, but whether or not Obama will keep his promise that won the votes needed to pass the health care reform or if he'll end up backing out of it now that the votes are cast.

    -edited cause it was early and I mixed up politician names-

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    Re: Who believes Obama will make this executive order

    An executive order describing how funds are to be used would be illegal, its solely up to Congress to decide how to spend tax payer dollars. If this healthcare bill has any funds for abortion, Obama would be sneaking into the legislative process by issuing such an Executive order.

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    Re: Who believes Obama will make this executive order

    I have no reason to doubt he will make the executive order. It would be incredibly foolish politically not to.
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