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    Re: Who'll Be Watching the Health Care Reform Debate on Sunday?

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    Now I am not a legal scholar here, but how is it that mandated auto insurance would not have been shot down by the same lack of constitutionality then?
    Those are mandated by the states, and plus it's only if you own a car. No one is forcing you to buy a car either.

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    Re: Who'll Be Watching the Health Care Reform Debate on Sunday?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Auto insurance mandates come from the states.
    So states are allowed to coerce people to buy into a service, when the fed cannot?

    I know, and a lot of leeway is left up to the states (less than should be - damn commerce clause interpretations), but this really seems odd that one is constitutional and the other could potentially not be.
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    Re: Who'll Be Watching the Health Care Reform Debate on Sunday?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Those are mandated by the states, and plus it's only if you own a car. No one is forcing you to buy a car either.
    good point, I knew something was not processing completely in my thinking,
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    Re: Who'll Be Watching the Health Care Reform Debate on Sunday?

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    So states are allowed to coerce people to buy into a service, when the fed cannot?

    I know, and a lot of leeway is left up to the states (less than should be - damn commerce clause interpretations), but this really seems odd that one is constitutional and the other could potentially not be.
    The Constitution created a federal government of limited powers, but the states retained plenary authority over their citizens. Unless a state acts in a way that infringes upon rights guaranteed by the Constitution or that is preempted by federal authority, it can do whatever it wants.
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    Re: Who'll Be Watching the Health Care Reform Debate on Sunday?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    The Constitution created a federal government of limited powers, but the states retained plenary authority over their citizens. Unless a state acts in a way that infringes upon rights guaranteed by the Constitution or that is preempted by federal authority, it can do whatever it wants.

    LOL @ you taking it back to Civics 101 for me

    I was being circuitous, but I was wondering if there was anything specific while overlooking the obvious.
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    Re: Who'll Be Watching the Health Care Reform Debate on Sunday?

    Watching cspan right now (as they're voting on the latest motion) is like watching an ant colony. Everybody appears to be moving completely randomly, but you know there's got to be some underlying algorithms to it all.

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    Re: Who'll Be Watching the Health Care Reform Debate on Sunday?

    What is a "motion to suspend the rules"? I suck at cspan.

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    Re: Who'll Be Watching the Health Care Reform Debate on Sunday?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    What is a "motion to suspend the rules"? I suck at cspan.
    Sounds like...a motion to suspend the rules...

    Or, in other words, that "I move we suspend the rules".

    I suppose whoever proposed it wants to punch out his opponent...lol.

    Or are there even rules against that?
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    The rule just passed with 228 aye votes.

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    Re: Who'll Be Watching the Health Care Reform Debate on Sunday?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    The House will be debating the health care reform bill on Sunday. Will you be watching?
    sure will ..

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