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Thread: Who'll Be Watching the Health Care Reform Debate on Sunday?

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    Re: Who'll Be Watching the Health Care Reform Debate on Sunday?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Apparently a lot, so let's take it one step at a time. For your assertion to be correct:

    No small business will take advantage of the small business tax credit that starting in 2010 cover up to 35% of the company's contribution to employee's health coverage.

    No people with pre-existing conditions who haven't had coverage for at least six months would want to obtain coverage through a "high-risk pool" with subsidized premiums.

    No early retirees will be interested in the temporary reinsurance program that will help cut the cost of health coverage for retirees not old enough to be eligible for Medicare.

    No dependents to age 26 will decide to stay on their parents insurance coverage rather than be without insurance.

    And, no insured will continue to have coverage when their companies are no longer allowed to terminate their coverage when they get sick.


    I find it totally unbelievable that will be the case.
    Take it up with the CBO, as it's their assertion, not mine.

    According to the CBO, the total number of uninsured would not change materially over the next 4 years. That means that the number of people who will gain coverage through the aforementioned programs will either be incredibly minor or will be offset by others who will be losing insurance.
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    Re: Who'll Be Watching the Health Care Reform Debate on Sunday?

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    It's really gonna make your and Corny's head spin when this takes effect, ain't it? Maybe we could sell tickets to the show.
    Moon and Right are probably some of the most level headed, results driven Republican/conservatives on this board.

    To dismiss them as partisan hacks is ignoring their compromises with something works.
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    Re: Who'll Be Watching the Health Care Reform Debate on Sunday?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Do I acknowledge that they will materially reduce the overall number of uninsured people? Of course not, because they won't.

    Again, read the goddamn bill that Congress just passed. The decrease in the uninsured is coming from two places and two places alone: the expansion of Medicaid/CHIP and the Exchanges. Neither of those kicks in until 2014.
    Wrong. And you have the nerve to say others ignore facts? Holy ****!

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    Re: Who'll Be Watching the Health Care Reform Debate on Sunday?

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    It's really gonna make your and Corny's head spin when this takes effect, ain't it? Maybe we could sell tickets to the show.
    Make my head spin? Not hardly. It will definitely make me poorer, and give me fewer options, and put the government more in control of something I rely upon from time to time (BTW, that's not a good thing), but it won't make my head spin.

    Enjoy your gloating. I'll remember your posts the next time you leftees suffer a big political defeat.
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    Re: Who'll Be Watching the Health Care Reform Debate on Sunday?

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    It's really gonna make your and Corny's head spin when this takes effect, ain't it? Maybe we could sell tickets to the show.
    "Corny"?

    Grow the **** up.

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    Re: Who'll Be Watching the Health Care Reform Debate on Sunday?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Moon and Right are probably some of the most level headed, results driven Republican/conservatives on this board.

    To dismiss them as partisan hacks is ignoring their compromises with something works.
    I don't know about moon but, NYC has shown me his true colors. This thread and others have shown me the truth.

    I didn't "dismiss him as a partisan hack". I said he's intentionally ignoring what is in the bill. Which he is.
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    Re: Who'll Be Watching the Health Care Reform Debate on Sunday?

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    I don't know about moon but, NYC has shown me his true colors. This thread and others have shown me the truth.

    I didn't "dismiss him as a partisan hack". I said he's intentionally ignoring what is in the bill. Which he is.
    He has studied the bill and the numbers more than I have.
    He is probably the best authority on it, compared to anyone else on this site.
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    Re: Who'll Be Watching the Health Care Reform Debate on Sunday?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    "Corny"?

    Grow the **** up.
    Is it really that hard to accept that the other party is in the majority, that your party has no intention of serving their constituents, that the Dems have made history on these Repukes' watch by passing Health Care Reform that will make Pelosi's name go down as one of the greatest Speakers in history, Obama's as one of the greatest presidents of all time and will give all American's the right to quality health care?

    Who really needs to grow the **** up?
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    Re: Who'll Be Watching the Health Care Reform Debate on Sunday?

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Is it really that hard to accept that the other party is in the majority, that your party has no intention of serving their constituents, that the Dems have made history on these Repukes' watch by passing Health Care Reform that will make Pelosi's name go down as one of the greatest Speakers in history, Obama's as one of the greatest presidents of all time and will give all American's the right to quality health care?

    Who really needs to grow the **** up?
    Which party is my party, champ?

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    Re: Who'll Be Watching the Health Care Reform Debate on Sunday?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Take it up with the CBO, as it's their assertion, not mine.
    Since the House has already voted for the bill, its moot now anyway. What will matter now are the actual results of the bill.
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