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    Re: Who'll Be Watching the Health Care Reform Debate on Sunday?

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    We already have that for people too. its called medicaid. yet its not enough for those that are hellbent on not taking any responsibility for their healthcare.
    But you cannot speak for every person that doesn't have healthcare. Look at the end of the day you have the best health care the world can offer.

    But only if you can pay for it.

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    Re: Who'll Be Watching the Health Care Reform Debate on Sunday?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Attitude!? This bill is being shoved down the country's throat. You're god damned right we have attitude. A purely partisan, party-line vote to change the entire country. Fear-mongering, lies, hypocrisy, arm-twisting, back door deals. How much of this did the left expect people to take?

    I despise "the left" now. The Republicans are bad, but Democrats and liberals, they're the worst; they're intellectually bankrupt and pathologically dishonest. They've declared war on this country and American values. They're spitting on the Constitution and subsititing their own reality.

    America, the Constitution has drawn its last breath. The government has won...
    This is what I was talking about with rhetoric. Polling has it within 10 % for and against. It has strong support in this country, and some opposed are opposed because it does not go far enough. Just because you don't like it does not mean it is being "shoved down the throat" of this country.
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    Re: Who'll Be Watching the Health Care Reform Debate on Sunday?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Not trying to be a jerk but that ain't going to happen.

    Might as well game the system, at least you can make some cash off of it.
    You're right. I was naive enough to think that people care about anything besides themselves.

    Bread and circuses. Human nature never changes and no empire lasts forever...

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    Re: Who'll Be Watching the Health Care Reform Debate on Sunday?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    This is what I was talking about with rhetoric. Polling has it within 10 % for and against. It has strong support in this country
    That is simply not true. Most of the people who support the bill do not have a strong opinion on it. Whereas most of the people who are against the bill are strongly against it.

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    Re: Who'll Be Watching the Health Care Reform Debate on Sunday?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    You're right. I was naive enough to think that people care about anything besides themselves.

    Bread and circuses. Human nature never changes and no empire lasts forever...
    I hate to be that way but it has become quite apparent to me that no one wants what we do, at the very least I can take advantage of their ignorance and laziness.

    It sounds bad but it's a dog eat dog world and if people want to throw their hard earned money away via the government, I'm going to get mine.
    The difference is that I manage my money very well, so it will just enrich me.
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    Re: Who'll Be Watching the Health Care Reform Debate on Sunday?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    But you cannot speak for every person that doesn't have healthcare. Look at the end of the day you have the best health care the world can offer.

    But only if you can pay for it.
    I'm far from rich, with a wife and two kids and I can afford it without government help. And its worth every penny. Health care is a resource, not a right. Reforming it to make it a "right" changes the very fundamentals of providing healthcare, reducing the top quality care we could be receiving instead.
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    Re: Who'll Be Watching the Health Care Reform Debate on Sunday?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    This is what I was talking about with rhetoric. Polling has it within 10 % for and against. It has strong support in this country, and some opposed are opposed because it does not go far enough. Just because you don't like it does not mean it is being "shoved down the throat" of this country.
    You must have mistaken me for someone who cares. Just so you know, I think I'm done caring. I'm surrounded by slugs and parasites, most of whom are against me. The lines have been drawn...

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    Re: Who'll Be Watching the Health Care Reform Debate on Sunday?

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    I'm far from rich, with a wife and two kids and I can afford it without government help. And its worth every penny. Health care is a resource, not a right. Reforming it to make it a "right" changes the very fundamentals of providing healthcare, reducing the top quality care we could be receiving instead.
    Alright so if its such a resource. Is it right that people are denied care for arbritrary reasons, such as pre-existing conditions. When the company that denied that person is posting billions in profit. Somehow... that seems wrong. And the worst part is they cannot be held accountable. Government can be.

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    Re: Who'll Be Watching the Health Care Reform Debate on Sunday?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I'm not saying you have to be like us. All i'm saying is, there are merits to the system. It can work. It is not communism. This is not the cold war, that's been over for awhile dude.

    I still just don't understand if ya'll were so worried about deficits and money, why did you allow a war to happen which is gonna cost you more then this health bill ever will EVER!

    If you can find money to kill people... can't you find money to help people?
    We can't find money to do either.

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