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  • They have character. They want no ones pity. They are not victims.

    7 21.21%
  • Black folks are victims. We ought to make such talk illegal. The black folks should be compensated.

    9 27.27%
  • Neither

    17 51.52%
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Thread: Which is the racist position?

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    Re: Which is the racist position?

    Quote Originally Posted by Toothpicvic View Post
    1069 is a little screwed up in the head.

    /End thread
    Then throw me in that barrel, because I side with 1069

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    Re: Which is the racist position?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I am uninterested in what OTHERS think, when discussing what I think. To me, context is what matters. If someone takes offense at a white comedian telling a joke about blacks, then, for me, they are not getting the context, and my opinion of them would be that they are playing the victim.

    I also think that most folks who understand context would feel similarly to me, though their millage may vary to some extent.
    The power of the white world is threatened whenever a black man refuses to accept the white world's definitions. -James A. Baldwin

    And one could add "context".

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    Re: Which is the racist position?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Context is ALWAYS important.
    Untrue. For whom?

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    Re: Which is the racist position?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    STOP Saying IT!!!!!!!!!!!
    Kali...don't be fazed. Anyone, IMHO, that writes out the n-word, is a racist. Anyone.

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    Re: Which is the racist position?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I wouldn't go up to a random guy on the street and tell the following joke either:

    What's the difference between a cadillac and a pile of dead babies

    I don't have a Cadillac in my Garage.

    I also wouldn't go up to a random girl on the street and ask her "Do you have a any italian in you" and when she says no ask her "Do you want some"

    Does it mean those things are racist because I wouldn't go up to a random person on the street and say them? No, it means that jokes whose humor comes from being offensive are generally ACTUALLY offensive to a bad degree when made without any context, to complete strangers.

    Hanging black people, in a general sense sans context, is not funny.

    A pile of dead babies, in a general sense sans context, is not funny.

    Propositioning a woman for sex, without any prior interaction, is generally not funny.

    That doesn't mean that given a proper situations and context that they couldn't be funny.

    Which is why the idiotic "why won't you go up to a random black guy and say it" argument is as idiotic as Aaronssongs inverse of that suggesting that "nigger" is always, without questioning, evil to say because someone wouldn't stand in the middle of a mall just repeating it loudly over and over again.
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    Re: Which is the racist position?

    Quote Originally Posted by aaronssongs View Post
    The power of the white world is threatened whenever a black man refuses to accept the white world's definitions.
    James A. Baldwin
    People that espouse this kind of sentiment is also fostering racism. Can you not see that?

    If racism is to end, THESE kinds of things need to cease. THESE sorts of ideas only separate and differentiate between races and THAT is the core of racism.
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    Re: Which is the racist position?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGirlNextDoor View Post
    People that espouse this kind of sentiment is also fostering racism. Can you not see that?

    If racism is to end, THESE kinds of things need to cease. THESE sorts of ideas only separate and differentiate between races and THAT is the core of racism.
    Excuse me, but I operate in the real world, where examples of racism are on display, everyday. Mr. Baldwin's viewpoint was obviously in response to the status quo then as now, which supports and promotes "white privilege", which is inherent and systemic racism. Indeed, if racism is to end, whites will have to stop demanding that they are entitled, and that entitlement dictates policy to persons of color.

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    Re: Which is the racist position?

    Quote Originally Posted by aaronssongs View Post
    Excuse me, but I operate in the real world, where examples of racism are on display, everyday. Mr. Baldwin's viewpoint was obviously in response to the status quo then as now, which supports and promotes "white privilege", which is inherent and systemic racism. Indeed, if racism is to end, whites will have to stop demanding that they are entitled, and that entitlement dictates policy to persons of color.
    What a load of crap. All minorities have equality of opportunity. Whites are not demanding entitlement, blacks are. This is racist bull****.

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    Re: Which is the racist position?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    What a load of crap. All minorities have equality of opportunity. Whites are not demanding entitlement, blacks are. This is racist bull****.

    Excuse me, but you know that is not true. All minorities don't have equality of opportunity, hence contingency plans exist (i.e. Affirmative Action, ACLU, due process, etc...). Congress doesn't have one black Republican senator or representative.
    Are you denying that "white privilege" exists, and that whites don't use it to their clear advantage?

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    Re: Which is the racist position?

    Quote Originally Posted by aaronssongs View Post
    Excuse me, but I operate in the real world, where examples of racism are on display, everyday. Mr. Baldwin's viewpoint was obviously in response to the status quo then as now, which supports and promotes "white privilege", which is inherent and systemic racism. Indeed, if racism is to end, whites will have to stop demanding that they are entitled, and that entitlement dictates policy to persons of color.
    If racism is to end then we need to stop thinking along the lines of "what color x needs to do" and projecting the faults of a few in a group across the whole. This goes equally for all races, whether it be gerneralizations such as "white elitism", black welfare leeching, jewish hatred of Palestinians, muslim - terrorists, polish stupidity, and so on, these are all inaccurate and discriminatory generalizations.

    Instead we need to focus on what "we" need to all do to rid our ranks of those who would perpetuate the rift between races, when these faults are not the faults of a race, but rather the faults of individuals within the whole, and are fualts of us as humans. Your white elitism categorization is also damaging to race relations, and is also discriminatory.
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